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could be nigelgoboom Send a noteboard - 17/07/2010 04:39:10 PM
Your suggestion isn't really a way to beat the Oath Rod . BS's answer indicates that Mesaana in her AS disguise (IMO, most likely the White Norine Dovarna) seemingly took the Oaths, but actually found a technical way to prevent that the Oath Rod works as it should.

Personally, I think it makes some sense that Mesaana prevented that the Oath Rod touched her skin, e.g. by an invisible and inverted OP barrier around her hand or something like that. Thus, the Oath Rod couldn't work as it should.


being not only an AoL AS but also an academic of the time she very likely knew the principles of the binding weave itself and therefore could have come up with several ways to beat the weave itself. whether gloves of air or just a specific type of warding, inverted of course.

but it doesn't have to be that complicated. whether egwene asked if they were df's or even ba, from mesaana's perspective she's neither. she's a "CHOSEN", or a "TRUE" aes sedai, or maybe even a "god" like graendal seemed to suggest.

the simple question of "do you serve the DO" might not even work if mesaana merely has to "decide" on the spot not to and then claim not to serve the DO. the better question to put them too would be "have you ever served the DO" or "have you ever considered yourself one of the chosen"

or how about "what was the name of the city were you born at the time of your birth?". that would work too, for the forsaken at least. hehe

cheers



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How did Mesaana beat the Oath Rod? - 17/07/2010 10:26:42 AM 4055 Views
I agree with Deadsy... - 17/07/2010 11:32:09 AM 1174 Views
could be - 17/07/2010 04:39:10 PM 1039 Views
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Another AS does the channeling according to NS - 17/07/2010 10:02:32 PM 1156 Views
And the Shaido "Wise Ones" channeled for Galina. *NM* - 18/07/2010 01:58:49 AM 606 Views
As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod. - 17/07/2010 06:42:38 PM 1118 Views
That's an interesting theory - 18/07/2010 02:01:23 AM 1079 Views
Re: As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod. - 20/07/2010 02:02:05 PM 1032 Views
Good point. We're asking the wrong questions entirely. - 20/07/2010 02:30:04 PM 936 Views
Re: Good point. We're asking the wrong questions entirely. - 20/07/2010 05:59:07 PM 962 Views
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Re: How did Mesaana beat the Oath Rod? - 18/07/2010 04:46:23 PM 940 Views
I think this is a tricky issue - 18/07/2010 05:50:50 PM 1107 Views
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Is the Verin thing widely known? - 19/07/2010 05:51:05 AM 1026 Views
Re: Is the Verin thing widely known? - 20/07/2010 11:55:35 PM 1015 Views
Re: I think this is a tricky issue - 19/07/2010 04:39:44 PM 955 Views
Everything you said but this... - 20/07/2010 01:25:34 AM 1034 Views
Or she didn't swear on it, because she's a servant. - 18/07/2010 11:05:08 PM 1057 Views
but BS would not have told us to think about defeating the oath rod then.... - 19/07/2010 04:10:56 PM 900 Views
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What about the True Power? - 19/07/2010 06:30:57 AM 1067 Views
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What about Compulsion on herself? - 19/07/2010 09:07:32 PM 1029 Views
Interesting idea, I think this might work. *NM* - 20/07/2010 02:33:04 PM 511 Views
Re: What about Compulsion on herself? - 20/07/2010 06:07:53 PM 866 Views
I just thought of the most obvious way around it. - 20/07/2010 06:17:34 PM 1063 Views
I actually like this idea. - 20/07/2010 07:40:56 PM 980 Views
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Re: I think this won't work for one reason. - 20/07/2010 08:51:15 PM 913 Views
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I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else - 20/07/2010 09:22:51 PM 952 Views
Re: I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else - 20/07/2010 09:44:12 PM 1031 Views
Off-topic question: - 21/07/2010 09:07:12 PM 892 Views
What about immortality? - 20/07/2010 08:03:21 PM 878 Views
Depends on how she is immortal. - 21/07/2010 09:09:49 PM 878 Views

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