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Another AS does the channeling according to NS darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 17/07/2010 10:02:32 PM
Mesaana could have channelled a protective layer (like gloves) not to touch directly the OR. It's theorically possible, but she would have been surrounded by sisters looking closely at what she was doing (and ready to shield her if she failed the test).

However I think there's an even simpler way to achieve the same result. Not only Mesaana had to hold the OR, but she had to channel a thread of Spirit into the numerals to activate it (it seems the person to be bound must be the one channelling or at least it's how the AS do it? I'd have to reread the scenes with the OR involved to be sure).


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Just Before Dawn

For an instant, Tamra hesitated, as though uncertain which of them to bind first, but only for an instant. Moiraine promptly raised her hands in front of her, palms upward, and Tamra placed the Rod there. This was the price Siuan had exacted, a favor to be granted, for Moiraine's yielding precedence through the oval. Needless to say, she had not revealed her "favor" until Moiraine accepted. She would become Aes Sedai first by minutes. It was so unfair!

But there was no time for thinking of how she should have known Siuan was up to something when she gave in so easily. The glow of saidar surrounded Tamra, and she touched the Oath Rod with a thin flow of Spirit.

Moiraine closed her hands around the Rod. It felt like glass, only somehow smoother. "Under the Light and by my hope of salvation and rebirth, I vow that I will speak no word that is not true." The Oath settled on her, and suddenly the air seemed to press harder against her skin.


Tamra actually weaves the flows when raising Moiraine and Siuan. But it seems like in TGS the Sisters we saw do the unbinding/rebinding wove the flows personally so it's hard to say. If I were in Egwene's shoes I'd have someone other than the Sister taking the oaths weave the flows.
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How did Mesaana beat the Oath Rod? - 17/07/2010 10:26:42 AM 4224 Views
I agree with Deadsy... - 17/07/2010 11:32:09 AM 1239 Views
could be - 17/07/2010 04:39:10 PM 1108 Views
I wonder if masking one's ability messes with the OR - 17/07/2010 02:44:37 PM 1221 Views
I don't think - 17/07/2010 05:29:59 PM 1519 Views
Re: I don't think - 17/07/2010 07:26:57 PM 1163 Views
Re: I don't think - 18/07/2010 06:13:59 PM 1166 Views
Another AS does the channeling according to NS - 17/07/2010 10:02:32 PM 1228 Views
And the Shaido "Wise Ones" channeled for Galina. *NM* - 18/07/2010 01:58:49 AM 638 Views
As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod. - 17/07/2010 06:42:38 PM 1190 Views
That's an interesting theory - 18/07/2010 02:01:23 AM 1138 Views
Re: As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod. - 20/07/2010 02:02:05 PM 1096 Views
Good point. We're asking the wrong questions entirely. - 20/07/2010 02:30:04 PM 993 Views
Re: Good point. We're asking the wrong questions entirely. - 20/07/2010 05:59:07 PM 1034 Views
Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't - 20/07/2010 04:04:28 PM 1307 Views
Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't - 20/07/2010 06:02:40 PM 1052 Views
Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't - 20/07/2010 07:26:20 PM 1044 Views
Re: How did Mesaana beat the Oath Rod? - 18/07/2010 04:46:23 PM 993 Views
I think this is a tricky issue - 18/07/2010 05:50:50 PM 1174 Views
Re: I think this is a tricky issue - 18/07/2010 07:28:51 PM 1230 Views
Is the Verin thing widely known? - 19/07/2010 05:51:05 AM 1086 Views
Re: Is the Verin thing widely known? - 20/07/2010 11:55:35 PM 1073 Views
Re: I think this is a tricky issue - 19/07/2010 04:39:44 PM 1021 Views
Everything you said but this... - 20/07/2010 01:25:34 AM 1114 Views
Or she didn't swear on it, because she's a servant. - 18/07/2010 11:05:08 PM 1117 Views
but BS would not have told us to think about defeating the oath rod then.... - 19/07/2010 04:10:56 PM 973 Views
I don't really see why this is such a big issue: - 22/07/2010 03:34:46 AM 1273 Views
Because - 22/07/2010 03:50:36 PM 1018 Views
What about the True Power? - 19/07/2010 06:30:57 AM 1131 Views
TP + OR = Boom? - 19/07/2010 06:47:01 AM 1058 Views
Re: TP + OR = Boom? or Melt? - 20/07/2010 01:33:20 AM 1111 Views
What about Compulsion on herself? - 19/07/2010 09:07:32 PM 1125 Views
Interesting idea, I think this might work. *NM* - 20/07/2010 02:33:04 PM 559 Views
Re: What about Compulsion on herself? - 20/07/2010 06:07:53 PM 934 Views
Yeah I realize what I presented was kinda the opposite of what I was going for. - 20/07/2010 02:15:46 AM 1055 Views
I just thought of the most obvious way around it. - 20/07/2010 06:17:34 PM 1134 Views
I actually like this idea. - 20/07/2010 07:40:56 PM 1064 Views
I think this won't work for one reason. - 20/07/2010 07:44:49 PM 1218 Views
Re: I think this won't work for one reason. - 20/07/2010 08:51:15 PM 974 Views
Wouldn't work - 20/07/2010 08:03:52 PM 1050 Views
I agree, but... - 20/07/2010 08:20:33 PM 1160 Views
This makes me wonder what would happen to a woman in a Link - 20/07/2010 08:37:12 PM 1032 Views
I bet it wouldn't work - 20/07/2010 08:52:00 PM 1478 Views
this is also possible - 20/07/2010 09:17:36 PM 1062 Views
I don't think so - 20/07/2010 09:05:58 PM 1069 Views
I don't know - 20/07/2010 09:16:55 PM 1046 Views
Re: Wouldn't work - 20/07/2010 09:11:50 PM 1418 Views
I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else - 20/07/2010 09:22:51 PM 1012 Views
Re: I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else - 20/07/2010 09:44:12 PM 1088 Views
Off-topic question: - 21/07/2010 09:07:12 PM 953 Views
What about immortality? - 20/07/2010 08:03:21 PM 958 Views
Depends on how she is immortal. - 21/07/2010 09:09:49 PM 943 Views

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