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Another AS does the channeling according to NS darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 17/07/2010 10:02:32 PM
Mesaana could have channelled a protective layer (like gloves) not to touch directly the OR. It's theorically possible, but she would have been surrounded by sisters looking closely at what she was doing (and ready to shield her if she failed the test).

However I think there's an even simpler way to achieve the same result. Not only Mesaana had to hold the OR, but she had to channel a thread of Spirit into the numerals to activate it (it seems the person to be bound must be the one channelling or at least it's how the AS do it? I'd have to reread the scenes with the OR involved to be sure).


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Just Before Dawn

For an instant, Tamra hesitated, as though uncertain which of them to bind first, but only for an instant. Moiraine promptly raised her hands in front of her, palms upward, and Tamra placed the Rod there. This was the price Siuan had exacted, a favor to be granted, for Moiraine's yielding precedence through the oval. Needless to say, she had not revealed her "favor" until Moiraine accepted. She would become Aes Sedai first by minutes. It was so unfair!

But there was no time for thinking of how she should have known Siuan was up to something when she gave in so easily. The glow of saidar surrounded Tamra, and she touched the Oath Rod with a thin flow of Spirit.

Moiraine closed her hands around the Rod. It felt like glass, only somehow smoother. "Under the Light and by my hope of salvation and rebirth, I vow that I will speak no word that is not true." The Oath settled on her, and suddenly the air seemed to press harder against her skin.


Tamra actually weaves the flows when raising Moiraine and Siuan. But it seems like in TGS the Sisters we saw do the unbinding/rebinding wove the flows personally so it's hard to say. If I were in Egwene's shoes I'd have someone other than the Sister taking the oaths weave the flows.
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How did Mesaana beat the Oath Rod? - 17/07/2010 10:26:42 AM 4275 Views
I agree with Deadsy... - 17/07/2010 11:32:09 AM 1278 Views
could be - 17/07/2010 04:39:10 PM 1148 Views
I wonder if masking one's ability messes with the OR - 17/07/2010 02:44:37 PM 1253 Views
I don't think - 17/07/2010 05:29:59 PM 1565 Views
Re: I don't think - 17/07/2010 07:26:57 PM 1201 Views
Re: I don't think - 18/07/2010 06:13:59 PM 1208 Views
Another AS does the channeling according to NS - 17/07/2010 10:02:32 PM 1263 Views
And the Shaido "Wise Ones" channeled for Galina. *NM* - 18/07/2010 01:58:49 AM 657 Views
As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod. - 17/07/2010 06:42:38 PM 1236 Views
That's an interesting theory - 18/07/2010 02:01:23 AM 1181 Views
Re: As mentioned above, your theory is not about defeating Oath Rod. - 20/07/2010 02:02:05 PM 1151 Views
Good point. We're asking the wrong questions entirely. - 20/07/2010 02:30:04 PM 1024 Views
Re: Good point. We're asking the wrong questions entirely. - 20/07/2010 05:59:07 PM 1072 Views
Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't - 20/07/2010 04:04:28 PM 1340 Views
Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't - 20/07/2010 06:02:40 PM 1101 Views
Re: "Mesanna did have oathes, just not the 3 AS ones". No she didn't - 20/07/2010 07:26:20 PM 1078 Views
Re: How did Mesaana beat the Oath Rod? - 18/07/2010 04:46:23 PM 1033 Views
I think this is a tricky issue - 18/07/2010 05:50:50 PM 1217 Views
Re: I think this is a tricky issue - 18/07/2010 07:28:51 PM 1275 Views
Is the Verin thing widely known? - 19/07/2010 05:51:05 AM 1118 Views
Re: Is the Verin thing widely known? - 20/07/2010 11:55:35 PM 1114 Views
Re: I think this is a tricky issue - 19/07/2010 04:39:44 PM 1069 Views
Everything you said but this... - 20/07/2010 01:25:34 AM 1147 Views
Or she didn't swear on it, because she's a servant. - 18/07/2010 11:05:08 PM 1157 Views
but BS would not have told us to think about defeating the oath rod then.... - 19/07/2010 04:10:56 PM 1017 Views
I don't really see why this is such a big issue: - 22/07/2010 03:34:46 AM 1315 Views
Because - 22/07/2010 03:50:36 PM 1050 Views
What about the True Power? - 19/07/2010 06:30:57 AM 1163 Views
TP + OR = Boom? - 19/07/2010 06:47:01 AM 1095 Views
Re: TP + OR = Boom? or Melt? - 20/07/2010 01:33:20 AM 1145 Views
What about Compulsion on herself? - 19/07/2010 09:07:32 PM 1172 Views
Interesting idea, I think this might work. *NM* - 20/07/2010 02:33:04 PM 578 Views
Re: What about Compulsion on herself? - 20/07/2010 06:07:53 PM 995 Views
Yeah I realize what I presented was kinda the opposite of what I was going for. - 20/07/2010 02:15:46 AM 1099 Views
I just thought of the most obvious way around it. - 20/07/2010 06:17:34 PM 1172 Views
I actually like this idea. - 20/07/2010 07:40:56 PM 1120 Views
I think this won't work for one reason. - 20/07/2010 07:44:49 PM 1275 Views
Re: I think this won't work for one reason. - 20/07/2010 08:51:15 PM 1002 Views
Wouldn't work - 20/07/2010 08:03:52 PM 1089 Views
I agree, but... - 20/07/2010 08:20:33 PM 1206 Views
This makes me wonder what would happen to a woman in a Link - 20/07/2010 08:37:12 PM 1073 Views
I bet it wouldn't work - 20/07/2010 08:52:00 PM 1534 Views
this is also possible - 20/07/2010 09:17:36 PM 1098 Views
I don't think so - 20/07/2010 09:05:58 PM 1118 Views
I don't know - 20/07/2010 09:16:55 PM 1094 Views
Re: Wouldn't work - 20/07/2010 09:11:50 PM 1453 Views
I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else - 20/07/2010 09:22:51 PM 1043 Views
Re: I think the OR is tied to a channelers connection to the OP and nothing else - 20/07/2010 09:44:12 PM 1122 Views
Off-topic question: - 21/07/2010 09:07:12 PM 992 Views
What about immortality? - 20/07/2010 08:03:21 PM 995 Views
Depends on how she is immortal. - 21/07/2010 09:09:49 PM 988 Views

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