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Moridin and SH knew that the CK could never defeat the dark one so they were happy to leave it Matrimony Cauthon Send a noteboard - 26/07/2010 05:56:56 PM
Moridin predicted the exact path Rand would follow if he happened to channel the True Power.

Moridin knew Rand's mind better than anyone else due to their mental connection. I personally think Moridin predicted the path that Rand would follow-- a path leading to addiction to the True Power, despair, and utter darkness with no regard for the pattern anymore. Moridin would know this since he, himself, has walked this exact path. The Choedan Kal in dark Rand's hands could no good for the world, even if it was used to kill a Forsaken. The amount of damage Rand created was far more than Graendal would have ever created.

Moridin understood that a dark-Rand would be so hard that he would no longer have any regard for the consequences of his actions in preparing for the Last Battle. Rand began doing reckless things like balefiring a whole palace and he almost balefired his own father and the entire Seanchan army. Moridin understood that Rand might follow this path because Moridin, himself, had already followed this path. Moridin also understood that the Choedan Kal posed no real threat to the Dark One. As we began to learn in TGS, power is not the key to defeating the DO. The DO really doesn't care how much damage Rand can do with the CK if Rand is ultimately destroying the pattern in the process. Moridin left the CK with Rand so that Rand could do the Dark One's own work: the ultimate Fisher.

Rand ultimately realized something that Moridin could never know: the power of love. Moridin could not have predicted Rand's epiphany on Dragonmount. Rand realized that power was not the key to winning the Last Battle.

We will probably learn more in AMOL, but I actually think it is reasonable that Moridin/SH/the DO had schemed the possibility that Rand might draw on the True Power.

Otherwise leaving it behind doesn't make real sense in any scenario:

Of course, if Rand is captured, you would leave a potential weapon behind for the Lightside to rescue him. On the other hand, if Rand is held at SG, you can't really use the OP without risking unpredictable results and likely Rand's death.

However, if Rand uses the TP and is tainted, it also makes sense to remove the Chodean Kal, because without that much potential OP strength it would be even harder for Rand to resist using the TP again and become completely addicted.
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foreshadowing of Semirhage's death - 25/07/2010 07:13:48 AM 1850 Views
I don't think that Semirhage was sacrificed - 25/07/2010 08:36:47 AM 1054 Views
No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* - 25/07/2010 09:30:46 AM 371 Views
Re: No, too tired to give reasons... *NM* - 26/07/2010 01:19:26 AM 362 Views
I disagree about the TP aspect - 25/07/2010 03:30:37 PM 980 Views
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It's an interesting theory in either direction - 25/07/2010 04:54:31 PM 901 Views
Re: It's an interesting theory in either direction - 26/07/2010 02:17:35 AM 750 Views
You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. - 26/07/2010 01:48:37 AM 835 Views
Re: You can't expect BS to give away things with 2 books to go. - 26/07/2010 02:24:29 AM 787 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect - 26/07/2010 01:22:30 AM 794 Views
Re: I disagree about the TP aspect - 26/07/2010 02:30:11 AM 749 Views
^^^what Datakim said^^^ - 26/07/2010 06:58:02 PM 776 Views
I don't know if Semirhage was sacrificed or not. Either way the Semirhage quote set up tGS 6 books - 26/07/2010 02:29:59 AM 861 Views
You were right the first time - 26/07/2010 03:02:22 AM 909 Views
I think the question is... - 26/07/2010 08:27:17 AM 824 Views
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Re: I think the question is... - 27/07/2010 01:15:29 AM 825 Views
Re: I think the question is... - 27/07/2010 02:10:41 AM 795 Views
Re: I think the question is... - 27/07/2010 03:17:01 AM 870 Views
Re: I think the question is... - 27/07/2010 05:08:59 AM 863 Views
Re: I think the question is... - 27/07/2010 05:59:37 PM 828 Views
I'd say that there was a pre-meditated plan or backup plan to sacrifice Semirhage - 26/07/2010 09:02:44 AM 876 Views
I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key - 26/07/2010 09:17:11 AM 793 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key - 26/07/2010 12:10:43 PM 775 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key - 26/07/2010 12:27:11 PM 857 Views
But if this was the plan... - 26/07/2010 12:30:37 PM 777 Views
Moridin and SH knew that the CK could never defeat the dark one so they were happy to leave it - 26/07/2010 05:56:56 PM 920 Views
Unlikely, and stupid if true - 26/07/2010 06:12:30 PM 780 Views
That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. - 27/07/2010 12:11:46 AM 731 Views
Re: That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth. - 27/07/2010 01:29:29 AM 748 Views
I fail to see the relevance. *NM* - 27/07/2010 02:06:27 AM 342 Views
the relevance is that it was impossible without the CK - 27/07/2010 05:25:45 AM 718 Views
Are you certain? - 27/07/2010 05:37:28 AM 756 Views
Re: Are you certain? - 27/07/2010 03:00:51 PM 819 Views
Re: Are you certain? - 27/07/2010 06:17:59 PM 767 Views
key word is "necessary" *NM* - 27/07/2010 05:14:19 AM 322 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 01:36:53 AM 724 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 02:19:22 AM 777 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 02:43:39 AM 774 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 03:17:49 AM 813 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 03:39:07 AM 768 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 04:26:31 AM 770 Views
Something still doesn't make sense in that theory though - 27/07/2010 07:15:22 AM 859 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 01:44:19 AM 828 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 05:31:03 AM 724 Views
Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true - 27/07/2010 03:53:20 PM 782 Views
??? The CK in the hands of a madman is exactly what the Dark One needs to destroy the pattern - 27/07/2010 07:01:13 AM 776 Views
So why not give it to Moridin then? - 27/07/2010 10:54:47 AM 802 Views
Re: I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key - 27/07/2010 12:10:01 AM 725 Views
This has been seen and commented before, by myself and others. - 26/07/2010 03:36:51 PM 740 Views
Sorry I missed them. I would have been happy enough to comment there. - 27/07/2010 03:43:46 AM 782 Views
Considering there are years and years worth of comments... - 27/07/2010 02:49:42 PM 769 Views
Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series - 26/07/2010 04:27:14 PM 793 Views
Re: Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series - 26/07/2010 10:34:18 PM 723 Views
Prophesying, but not foreshadowing. - 27/07/2010 12:06:06 AM 673 Views
You confuse foreshadowing and predictability - 27/07/2010 02:57:15 AM 1095 Views
I agree with DomA *NM* *NM* - 27/07/2010 03:44:51 AM 350 Views
I don't believe in foreshadowing that you can figure out from the actual plot. - 27/07/2010 08:42:11 PM 754 Views

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