It's also possible that Elza was afraid to touch the Access Key. She must have known that Rand had trapped Callandor with wardings in the Stone. As you mentioned in another post, her terror for SH would have made her go for the DB immediately but she might have wondered about her safety with the Access Key.
I would have to disagree on this point. If Elza is brave enough to take the wardings off the bundle with the male a'dam then I don't think she would be terrified of the CK at this point.
What is more likely, to me, is that SH instructed her to leave the CK behind. As I have already stated the shadow clearly had the intel that the male a'dam was there. Therefore it follows that they also knew the CK was there. I think SH must have devised a plan as to what he wanted to do with the CK. In this case, as my theory goes, I believe SH instructed Elza to leave it behind.
What would be more fruitful, at this time, is to figure out how the shadow knew where the male a'dam was. Soirlea and Bair were the primary witnesses, but there may have been secondary people such as Elza that may have also found out.
On the other hand, Elza being Black Ajah, might discount anything that involves saidin because it provides her with limited personal gain, unless she can give it to one of the male Forsaken.
If SH told her to leave it behind then she had a very clear motive not to mess with it.
As for TP addiction, I'm not sure if it's a huge problem. Demandred seems to be happy with saidin and generally stays away from the TP, so Rand should be able to do the same.
This argument definitely doesn't hold. Rand was clearly affected by the usage of the TP. Addiction varies between people. Not everyone gets addicted from cocaine the 1st time but many people do.
foreshadowing of Semirhage's death
- 25/07/2010 07:13:48 AM
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I don't think that Semirhage was sacrificed
- 25/07/2010 08:36:47 AM
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I disagree about the TP aspect
- 25/07/2010 03:30:37 PM
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Re: I disagree about the TP aspect
- 25/07/2010 04:03:45 PM
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It's an interesting theory in either direction
- 25/07/2010 04:54:31 PM
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Re: It's an interesting theory in either direction
- 26/07/2010 02:17:35 AM
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BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use."
- 26/07/2010 09:24:26 AM
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Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use."
- 27/07/2010 03:48:32 AM
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Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use."
- 27/07/2010 04:18:34 AM
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Re: I disagree about the TP aspect
- 26/07/2010 01:22:30 AM
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I don't know if Semirhage was sacrificed or not. Either way the Semirhage quote set up tGS 6 books
- 26/07/2010 02:29:59 AM
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You were right the first time
- 26/07/2010 03:02:22 AM
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I think the question is...
- 26/07/2010 08:27:17 AM
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Re: I think the question is...
- 27/07/2010 12:43:44 AM
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Re: I think the question is...
- 27/07/2010 01:15:29 AM
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Re: I think the question is...
- 27/07/2010 02:10:41 AM
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Re: I think the question is...
- 27/07/2010 03:17:01 AM
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I'd say that there was a pre-meditated plan or backup plan to sacrifice Semirhage
- 26/07/2010 09:02:44 AM
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I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key
- 26/07/2010 09:17:11 AM
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Moridin and SH knew that the CK could never defeat the dark one so they were happy to leave it
- 26/07/2010 05:56:56 PM
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Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 26/07/2010 06:12:30 PM
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That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth.
- 27/07/2010 12:11:46 AM
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Re: That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth.
- 27/07/2010 01:29:29 AM
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I fail to see the relevance. *NM*
- 27/07/2010 02:06:27 AM
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the relevance is that it was impossible without the CK
- 27/07/2010 05:25:45 AM
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Are you certain?
- 27/07/2010 05:37:28 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 01:36:53 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 02:19:22 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 02:43:39 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 03:17:49 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 01:44:19 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 05:31:03 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 03:53:20 PM
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??? The CK in the hands of a madman is exactly what the Dark One needs to destroy the pattern
- 27/07/2010 07:01:13 AM
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So why not give it to Moridin then?
- 27/07/2010 10:54:47 AM
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If their plan of taking Rand to Shayol Ghul suceeded then the CK was no longer needed
- 27/07/2010 03:39:58 PM
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Could be simple. How do you find an object that "lies hidden"?
- 27/07/2010 04:17:35 PM
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It could be, but I would still think they would have noticed the CK sitting next to the male a'dam
- 27/07/2010 04:34:45 PM
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This has been seen and commented before, by myself and others.
- 26/07/2010 03:36:51 PM
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Sorry I missed them. I would have been happy enough to comment there.
- 27/07/2010 03:43:46 AM
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Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series
- 26/07/2010 04:27:14 PM
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Re: Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series
- 26/07/2010 10:34:18 PM
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You confuse foreshadowing and predictability
- 27/07/2010 02:57:15 AM
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That last line had me laughing! (right on the money too, by the way) *NM*
- 27/07/2010 02:58:20 PM
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I don't believe in foreshadowing that you can figure out from the actual plot.
- 27/07/2010 08:42:11 PM
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