If their plan of taking Rand to Shayol Ghul suceeded then the CK was no longer needed
Matrimony Cauthon Send a noteboard - 27/07/2010 03:39:58 PM
It may not have been the primary plan, but I think it is quite reasonable that the Dark One left the CK for Rand on purpose. I have yet to see a better explanation for why the CK was left behind.
The better explanation is the logical one - it was overlooked or impossible to steal it at the time. We don't even know if SH looked into the box. More likely he sent Elza and she fetched the band. The thought of straying from her mission would incomprehensible when serving a walking terror like SH.
I don't think it was overlooked, because they obviously had the intel of where the male a'dam was. SH and Moridin realized that if Semirhage brought Rand to Shayol Ghul then it was 'Game Over.' The CK wouldn't work at Shayol Ghul, and they would likely have turned Rand to the shadow before a proper rescue effort could have been mounted. Therefore the CK was no longer needed.
Therefore they left the CK behind because it served them better to leave it behind if Semirhage failed to take Rand to Shayol Ghul. They didn't overlook the CK or accidentally leave it behind-- this was a quick-strike operation and they knew exactly where the male a'dam would be. If they knew where the male a'dam was, then it follows they knew the Ck would be there too. They didn't overlook it, they just realized it wasn't needed anymore if Semirhage suceeded. More perplexing, however, is where did they get this intel?
We can argue all we want about the rest of my theory, but it only stands to reason that the pattern had no use left for the CK and therefore it allowed it to be destroyed. Therefore there is no point in arguing about what the light should and could have done with the CK.
foreshadowing of Semirhage's death
- 25/07/2010 07:13:48 AM
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I don't think that Semirhage was sacrificed
- 25/07/2010 08:36:47 AM
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I disagree about the TP aspect
- 25/07/2010 03:30:37 PM
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Re: I disagree about the TP aspect
- 25/07/2010 04:03:45 PM
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It's an interesting theory in either direction
- 25/07/2010 04:54:31 PM
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Re: It's an interesting theory in either direction
- 26/07/2010 02:17:35 AM
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BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use."
- 26/07/2010 09:24:26 AM
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Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use."
- 27/07/2010 03:48:32 AM
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Re: BS said "there will be consequences from Rand's True Power use."
- 27/07/2010 04:18:34 AM
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Re: I disagree about the TP aspect
- 26/07/2010 01:22:30 AM
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I don't know if Semirhage was sacrificed or not. Either way the Semirhage quote set up tGS 6 books
- 26/07/2010 02:29:59 AM
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You were right the first time
- 26/07/2010 03:02:22 AM
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I think the question is...
- 26/07/2010 08:27:17 AM
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Re: I think the question is...
- 27/07/2010 12:43:44 AM
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Re: I think the question is...
- 27/07/2010 01:15:29 AM
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- 27/07/2010 02:10:41 AM
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Re: I think the question is...
- 27/07/2010 03:17:01 AM
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I'd say that there was a pre-meditated plan or backup plan to sacrifice Semirhage
- 26/07/2010 09:02:44 AM
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I think SH simply didn't care about the CK access key
- 26/07/2010 09:17:11 AM
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Moridin and SH knew that the CK could never defeat the dark one so they were happy to leave it
- 26/07/2010 05:56:56 PM
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Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 26/07/2010 06:12:30 PM
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That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth.
- 27/07/2010 12:11:46 AM
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Re: That wasn't the Choedan Kal, that was Shadar Logoth.
- 27/07/2010 01:29:29 AM
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I fail to see the relevance. *NM*
- 27/07/2010 02:06:27 AM
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the relevance is that it was impossible without the CK
- 27/07/2010 05:25:45 AM
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Are you certain?
- 27/07/2010 05:37:28 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 01:36:53 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 02:19:22 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 02:43:39 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 03:17:49 AM
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Re: Unlikely, and stupid if true
- 27/07/2010 01:44:19 AM
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??? The CK in the hands of a madman is exactly what the Dark One needs to destroy the pattern
- 27/07/2010 07:01:13 AM
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So why not give it to Moridin then?
- 27/07/2010 10:54:47 AM
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If their plan of taking Rand to Shayol Ghul suceeded then the CK was no longer needed
- 27/07/2010 03:39:58 PM
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Could be simple. How do you find an object that "lies hidden"?
- 27/07/2010 04:17:35 PM
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It could be, but I would still think they would have noticed the CK sitting next to the male a'dam
- 27/07/2010 04:34:45 PM
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This has been seen and commented before, by myself and others.
- 26/07/2010 03:36:51 PM
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Sorry I missed them. I would have been happy enough to comment there.
- 27/07/2010 03:43:46 AM
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Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series
- 26/07/2010 04:27:14 PM
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Re: Hands up if you don't believe in foreshadowing in this series
- 26/07/2010 10:34:18 PM
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You confuse foreshadowing and predictability
- 27/07/2010 02:57:15 AM
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That last line had me laughing! (right on the money too, by the way) *NM*
- 27/07/2010 02:58:20 PM
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I don't believe in foreshadowing that you can figure out from the actual plot.
- 27/07/2010 08:42:11 PM
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