Active Users:188 Time:19/05/2024 11:01:07 PM
Re: thoughts Datakim Send a noteboard - 01/10/2010 08:36:18 PM

I never considered this before, but maybe the whole "The Land is one with the Dragon" could effect Rand himself. Maybe the darker he got, the more sick he felt while channeling. Just an idea. I always assumed it was caused by his balefire crossing paths with Moridin's.


I do think that the link with Moridin is responsible for the sickness. There are just too many cases where the sickness is accompanied with images/feelings of Moridins. Not to mention the vision Rand had where Moridin was feeling the same thing when Rand channeled. So I think the link is indeed the primary cause.

However, it also seems to me that the more Rand fell into darkness, the worse the sickness. It occurred to me that this might be somekind of mental struggle between Rand and Moridin. As Rand became darker and grew mentally weaker and more like Moridin, the sickness caused by the link grew worse. Maybe because Rand's mental state was beginning to match Moridins.

Rand experienced the worst channeling-sickness ever when he was about to commit mass murder of a civilian population with the Choedan Kal, an utterly evil act and something Moridin could well have done. There could be a correlation. So basically I figure that the sickness is still there, but now that Rand has improved mentally and separated himself from Moridin, the symptoms might have lessened. Basically he might now suffer symptoms like he did in the beginning such as mild dizziness and the like, rather than the overwhelming nausea he felt at his worst.

And if nothing else, his new light-aura is capable of healing people and revitalizing plants and living things. Even if the sickness is totally unrelated, it is still possible that it could soothe the symptoms. A painkiller of sorts. Moridin has the True Power to help him with the link, it is only fair that Rand gets something too. ;)


Rand could just go there in a disguise, and ask to see the Amyrlin. It's usually only women that are allowed personal audiences with the Amyrlin though, so I'm not sure. Either way, I don't think he'll be there long enough to be in danger.


That is assuming that the AS are not checking for male channelers. They have that weave of theirs now which detects saidin, and Rand knows of it. One would expect that in a world with male forsaken and Asha'man, they would check for disguises by looking for saidin weaves. Especially around those that want to see their new Amyrlin.

Ofcourse Rand could just travel into the tower. The AS don't know how to block traveling so they could not prevent it. I wonder however if stepping out of Egwenes closet would be the best way to start a meeting with her. I think it far more likely that Egwene would demand a full meeting with all the sitters present.

The bottom line is however that the AS have wanted to, if not control Rand, then atleast have him under their "guidance". And thats true of Egwene too. If Rand does meet with the entire hall for instance, how likely is it that they would allow him to just walk out, rather than "inviting" him to stay in the tower as a "guest" until the last battle. Rand blew up the Choedan Kal and his own strength could not stand against a full circle. If the AS want to hold him there, he would be helpless to resist.

And ofcourse thats ignoring things such as the black ajah (Rand does not know of Verin and the fact that they have been wiped out yet) or the fact that there might be Forsaken hiding in WT (which we know is the case). Basically, either Rand is being incredibly foolish in just walking in all alone with no backup or bodyguards, or he knows something we don't.

Either that, or BS/RJ is writing what the plot demands and does not care if it makes sense for Rand to do something like that. :(
Reply to message
Chapter 1 released - 01/10/2010 01:40:27 PM 5595 Views
For the record, it sucks waiting for you people to wake up and read this - 01/10/2010 01:50:02 PM 1295 Views
Deadsy is like the Keebler Elves, but real - 01/10/2010 04:38:15 PM 1191 Views
Not too much new to work with. Is "she" Egwene? Cads? Someone else? *NM* - 01/10/2010 02:01:12 PM 749 Views
Thanks for the heads up, by the way. *NM* - 01/10/2010 02:01:34 PM 724 Views
Egwene - 01/10/2010 02:06:57 PM 1282 Views
Re: Egwene - 01/10/2010 02:15:24 PM 1329 Views
Well damn. Was that Buddha? - 01/10/2010 02:36:29 PM 1775 Views
This blaming Brandon for everything stuff is getting old. - 01/10/2010 02:55:04 PM 1444 Views
I've never blamed BS for anything (expect fucking up Mat's character) - 01/10/2010 03:27:36 PM 1209 Views
I suppose it looks like I'm singling you out - 01/10/2010 03:31:41 PM 1268 Views
I agree with you. *NM* - 01/10/2010 10:30:49 PM 688 Views
BOOOOO I want Sunshine and Rainbows damnit *NM* - 01/10/2010 11:04:21 PM 728 Views
Care bears... care! *NM* - 02/10/2010 07:39:33 AM 942 Views
LMAO *NM* - 02/10/2010 09:34:23 PM 701 Views
WOW! It's beautyful - 01/10/2010 02:51:07 PM 1455 Views
i guess he's found a bit of peace at last - 01/10/2010 02:53:39 PM 1245 Views
Poorly written, but I still got goosebumps at Rand's importance finally being demonstrated... - 01/10/2010 03:14:48 PM 1475 Views
"My father’s estates do produce lumber and fine woods, and ice peppers, and furs, and more besides." - 01/10/2010 03:27:22 PM 1644 Views
It's the style. In the Randland context, the word "grows" is more appropriate... - 01/10/2010 03:31:22 PM 1273 Views
did you not read my reply title? That was a quote from The Shadow Rising, same exact context. *NM* - 01/10/2010 03:32:23 PM 722 Views
Fine. So be it. It still feels wrong to me. *NM* - 01/10/2010 03:36:16 PM 613 Views
but it's all RJ's fault *NM* - 01/10/2010 03:40:14 PM 555 Views
Maybe it's in the context of BS's sentences... - 01/10/2010 03:44:28 PM 1211 Views
Funny, I like BS more than RJ - 01/10/2010 03:46:53 PM 1199 Views
Ya, BS's Elayne was totally different than RJ's... *NM* - 01/10/2010 03:52:33 PM 738 Views
I feel bad for you. I really do. - 01/10/2010 03:54:02 PM 1261 Views
Have to disagree.. - 04/10/2010 09:06:53 PM 1146 Views
OMG... how cool is Rand? - 01/10/2010 03:28:05 PM 1449 Views
Yes, and what I love is the CERTAINTY. - 01/10/2010 03:35:38 PM 1360 Views
yeah exactly! - 01/10/2010 04:37:01 PM 1407 Views
It sounds like Rand is finally growing up - 01/10/2010 03:46:54 PM 1348 Views
He has achieved enlightenment and knows more than everyone else, so he doesn't have to be insecure.. - 01/10/2010 03:52:23 PM 1129 Views
I don't agree - I think that what he is going to tell Egwene will be unpleasant for everyone. - 01/10/2010 04:07:19 PM 1223 Views
Why would that upset her? - 01/10/2010 04:21:29 PM 1270 Views
Because I think she was hoping to work with him to solve some of these problems - 01/10/2010 04:42:33 PM 1252 Views
I tend to agree - 05/10/2010 01:41:22 AM 1102 Views
LTT didn't embrace the name Dragon - 05/10/2010 02:57:59 AM 1250 Views
EOTW, prologue - 05/10/2010 02:08:45 PM 1149 Views
Rand's actions on Dragonmount - 01/10/2010 05:19:20 PM 1292 Views
Re: Chapter 1 released - 01/10/2010 05:24:24 PM 1220 Views
Great one! - 01/10/2010 05:31:45 PM 1199 Views
The Sickness - 01/10/2010 07:22:24 PM 1452 Views
thoughts - 01/10/2010 07:28:38 PM 1434 Views
Re: thoughts - 01/10/2010 08:36:18 PM 1112 Views
Egwene - 03/10/2010 02:57:38 AM 1378 Views
Re: Egwene - 04/10/2010 09:44:00 AM 1080 Views
Nonsense - 05/10/2010 03:52:31 AM 1108 Views
Re: Nonsense - 05/10/2010 09:53:06 AM 1502 Views
seriously! Read what Egwene actually says sometime... - 06/10/2010 08:17:15 PM 1002 Views
Re: seriously! Read what Egwene actually says sometime... - 06/10/2010 08:40:39 PM 847 Views
want to back that up with an actual quote from Egwene's mouth? - 06/10/2010 11:01:09 PM 1021 Views
Re: want to back that up with an actual quote from Egwene's mouth? - 07/10/2010 09:45:21 PM 1101 Views
Yes, but her comment is far closer to the truth than his! - 07/10/2010 10:18:54 PM 1166 Views
I'd say - 08/10/2010 08:30:17 PM 1022 Views
just like Egwene is 100% correct about AS being compelled - 08/10/2010 10:31:03 PM 988 Views
Unlikely, I know, but... - 01/10/2010 07:42:17 PM 1220 Views
I am so confused... - 01/10/2010 09:45:32 PM 1377 Views
Re: I am so confused... - 01/10/2010 10:02:59 PM 1241 Views
Re: I am so confused... - 01/10/2010 10:17:14 PM 1155 Views
Re: I am so confused... - 01/10/2010 10:22:14 PM 1138 Views
Re: I am so confused... - 01/10/2010 11:21:32 PM 1109 Views
Re: I am so confused... - 02/10/2010 01:01:47 AM 1097 Views
We've seen hints of this power for a while - 02/10/2010 09:42:04 PM 1046 Views
That may have been an indirect result of using the TP, rather than a direct one - 03/10/2010 03:30:24 AM 1083 Views
I'm surprised no one has discussed Seanchan yet - 01/10/2010 10:20:37 PM 1494 Views
But there have always been murderers on the Crystal Throne. *NM* - 01/10/2010 11:42:52 PM 664 Views
Probably... - 02/10/2010 02:09:45 PM 1391 Views
Re: Probably... - 04/10/2010 11:21:14 PM 1062 Views
Hahah I am so pumped for this book. - 02/10/2010 02:29:25 AM 1127 Views
Thanks. - 02/10/2010 04:40:30 AM 1093 Views
Thanks Deadsy - 02/10/2010 10:05:15 AM 1316 Views
Why are people saying Rands turned into some happy clappy - 02/10/2010 01:56:58 PM 1143 Views
He's met Bunt (but that's beside the point) *NM* - 02/10/2010 02:16:36 PM 680 Views
Nice one... - 02/10/2010 02:06:27 PM 1327 Views
Moridin.... - 02/10/2010 04:03:34 PM 1265 Views
I've seen it theorized (before chapter 1 was released) that - 02/10/2010 04:39:09 PM 1153 Views
That seems likely to me. - 02/10/2010 05:24:23 PM 1070 Views
I don't think... - 02/10/2010 05:44:05 PM 1562 Views
I agree with you - 03/10/2010 02:02:40 AM 1008 Views
Not up to Moridin - 03/10/2010 11:34:24 PM 1064 Views
Re: I don't think... - 05/10/2010 02:11:32 AM 993 Views
seems about right ... standard 2nd book of a Trilogy type stuff - 06/10/2010 08:25:54 PM 973 Views
When are they gonna release Chapter 30? =P *NM* - 02/10/2010 05:21:40 PM 671 Views
Re:TOM Chapter 1 Biblical Parallel - 02/10/2010 08:31:35 PM 1205 Views
When Cameron was in Egypt land, let my Cameron go - 02/10/2010 08:45:55 PM 1068 Views
Re: When Cameron was in Egypt land, let my Cameron go - 03/10/2010 12:44:44 AM 1076 Views
My own impressions - 03/10/2010 01:58:21 PM 1066 Views
dammit how am i supposed to read this without reading the prologue first? *NM* - 03/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 716 Views
short but sweet like th apples *NM* - 03/10/2010 09:13:09 PM 675 Views
Chapter 1 is not connected to the prologue. *NM* - 04/10/2010 05:21:19 PM 705 Views
The revival of the Green Man? - 03/10/2010 09:25:50 PM 1208 Views
Likes this theory! - 04/10/2010 12:06:09 AM 1113 Views
Re: The revival of the Green Man? - 04/10/2010 01:05:06 AM 1184 Views
Re: The revival of the Green Man? - 04/10/2010 11:49:54 PM 1136 Views
You assume the supply of Souls is finite - 05/10/2010 02:49:28 AM 1022 Views
Yes - 05/10/2010 02:08:10 PM 1197 Views
That doesn't make sense - 06/10/2010 04:14:54 AM 962 Views
you assume that a soul is tainted forever and not returned to a nutral state upon death. - 06/10/2010 06:43:11 AM 1073 Views
O... you assume I don't know my stuff - 06/10/2010 02:35:06 PM 1098 Views
Re: O... you assume I don't know my stuff - 06/10/2010 06:38:49 PM 960 Views
Re: O... you assume I don't know my stuff - 06/10/2010 10:20:35 PM 1127 Views
Did you ever read the Ender series of books? - 05/10/2010 09:55:11 PM 1044 Views
OMG That is so cool! - 04/10/2010 04:22:21 PM 1205 Views
Re: OMG That is so cool! - 31/10/2010 07:13:11 PM 940 Views
Deadsy, you always are bringing me the good s**t...Thanks! *NM* - 05/10/2010 01:37:48 PM 1077 Views
ARGH! Spoilers! Spoilers! MINE EYES!!!! - 14/10/2010 08:52:53 AM 1093 Views

Reply to Message