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Yes, she was useless to this storyline. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 25/11/2010 11:40:57 PM
Nothing of what she did couldn't have been replicated via other, better means, which makes her presence entirely superficial. If her role were likewise intended to be superficial, this would be fine, but given that this was supposed to be one of her grand schemes, it's entirely underwhelming. Given the lack of influence Graendal actually had on events, I am inclined to suspect that she was a late addition to the storyline, rather than a planned contribution.

I disagree that her survival was a deus ex machina, however. It was actually surprisingly credible, and this coming from someone who had strongly argued that she was dead.
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oops minor omission, i meant the last 3 books were meant to be one big tome *NM* - 26/11/2010 04:40:53 PM 346 Views
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No, it wasn't obvious. - 26/11/2010 03:25:09 AM 701 Views
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Yes, she was useless to this storyline. - 25/11/2010 11:40:57 PM 817 Views
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NM *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:29:40 AM 402 Views

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