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Well Marshall Send a noteboard - 26/11/2010 03:01:46 PM
An author consistently uses the same narrative voice, plot devices and style of writing for 11 books. SUDDENLY, when a new author takes over, major players start acting out of character, performing actions they never would have earlier, and scenes pop up that don't fit the storyline nearly as well. The Graendal scene is one such as those. Aran'gar acted like a Novice, Graendal spoke out-of-place thoughts aloud, and the entire Graendal mystery was convoluted, out of place, and the timing was odd as well.

Do I think RJ intended to have Graendal escape an attack from Rand? Maybe to probably. Do I think BS came up with how? Probably.

There's no doubt that BS wrote the scene, and there's no doubt that he came up with the details surrounding the events. It' not all that difficult to pick out RJ's writings from BS's. It's a little harder to pick out who came up with what plot scenario--not the words, but the ideas--but it's not impossible. The Graendal scene may have been designed by RJ as a means to indicate how far into madness and despair Rand had fallen--but the way in which it was done was most definitely BS, and I did not approve. It was belittling to the readers and to the characters.
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What was the purpose of Graendal?! - 25/11/2010 03:54:29 PM 1754 Views
BS wanted to put her behind a "complicated" plot - 25/11/2010 04:11:01 PM 1061 Views
Yes, it's BSand's fault. RJ couldn't have EVER planned it all out himself right? Yes mm hmm - 25/11/2010 04:19:02 PM 997 Views
read DomA's review. BullShit ruined the series. *NM* - 25/11/2010 04:31:56 PM 456 Views
Links or it didn't happen. - 25/11/2010 04:53:24 PM 937 Views
oh but, bookwyrm, now they have such a nice easy scapegoat!! *NM* - 26/11/2010 01:35:53 AM 415 Views
And DomA is such infallible authority on the all things WoT why? *NM* - 25/11/2010 06:00:42 PM 443 Views
I'd say that DomA is one of the most thoughtful posters here. He researches his comments and gives - 25/11/2010 06:47:58 PM 951 Views
You got me wrong - 25/11/2010 07:11:43 PM 1081 Views
That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes - 26/11/2010 01:33:08 AM 870 Views
Re: That doesn't mean he has any actual evidence as to BS tampering with RJ's notes - 26/11/2010 03:47:38 PM 872 Views
Okay, what would you have had him do? - 27/11/2010 01:54:19 AM 791 Views
Interesting question. - 27/11/2010 02:58:55 AM 959 Views
Re: Interesting question. - 27/11/2010 07:56:38 PM 956 Views
Re: Interesting question. - 27/11/2010 11:52:53 PM 739 Views
Sorry, Dominic, but I strongly disagree. - 28/11/2010 05:30:28 AM 783 Views
Re: Okay, what would you have had him do? - 27/11/2010 06:02:22 PM 758 Views
clearly the timeline is wonky, but it's easy enough to keep track of - 04/12/2010 05:32:34 PM 975 Views
A minor aside - 26/11/2010 02:49:03 PM 783 Views
oops minor omission, i meant the last 3 books were meant to be one big tome *NM* - 26/11/2010 04:40:53 PM 390 Views
Meh, even that is pretty ridiculous - 26/11/2010 06:32:20 PM 731 Views
Well - 26/11/2010 03:01:46 PM 834 Views
Lots - 25/11/2010 04:38:52 PM 1012 Views
Re: Lots - 25/11/2010 04:53:38 PM 878 Views
What is the point of anything then? - 25/11/2010 05:01:15 PM 995 Views
Re: What is the point of anything then? - 25/11/2010 05:07:30 PM 881 Views
Re: What is the point of anything then? - 25/11/2010 05:11:15 PM 933 Views
I don't agree with "deus ex machina style" - 25/11/2010 05:58:19 PM 987 Views
Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style" - 25/11/2010 06:22:31 PM 918 Views
Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style" - 25/11/2010 06:34:57 PM 877 Views
Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style" - 25/11/2010 08:43:38 PM 851 Views
Re: I don't agree with "deus ex machina style" - 25/11/2010 08:47:10 PM 855 Views
I imagine it is both. - 25/11/2010 11:37:21 PM 879 Views
No, it wasn't obvious. - 26/11/2010 03:25:09 AM 805 Views
Well, it was after I read it. - 26/11/2010 02:03:20 PM 828 Views
Yes, she was useless to this storyline. - 25/11/2010 11:40:57 PM 914 Views
If it hadn't been Graendal, it WOULD have been rather contrived... - 26/11/2010 01:35:12 AM 774 Views
Well, we were under the impression that Moridin alone had access to the True Power. - 26/11/2010 02:36:31 AM 976 Views
I was under the impression other Forsaken had access as well, something pointed out by their POVs .. - 27/11/2010 09:09:17 AM 771 Views
No, only Moridin - 27/11/2010 06:43:17 PM 774 Views
Please. - 26/11/2010 03:16:36 AM 898 Views
Hmm? - 26/11/2010 06:56:01 AM 818 Views
NM *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:29:40 AM 445 Views

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