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a) most of that is your own extrapolation, not shown in the text moratcorlm Send a noteboard - 23/01/2011 04:56:14 PM
It does not mean that their owner can't decide to have them strapped or maimed or simply killed.

b) it's hardly unique to property, as the plight of the ostensibly free working class in Randland shows. There is evidence in the text of Randland servants being starved, beaten, and raped without any furor. These are brutish pre-Enlightenment societies one and all.

There are plenty of good arguments against the Seanchan, but as they say, you are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. Lies don't help your case.
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Seanchan Takeover of Randland Mordie01 - 22/01/2011 11:25:36 PM 2272 Views
I would be mostly okay with it if they abolished slavery first Deadsy - 23/01/2011 12:19:48 AM 1206 Views
Hopefully the Dragon's Peace (not the one Avi saw the effects of) those concerns. *NM* Japhy - 23/01/2011 03:21:04 AM 560 Views
You mean utter anarchy and a dangerously stratified society? Ghavrel - 23/01/2011 07:24:48 AM 991 Views
The situation in Seanchan isn't that unique ranagrande - 23/01/2011 07:49:28 AM 1025 Views
Except with continous rebellion. Chas - 23/01/2011 12:13:17 PM 1015 Views
That's to be expected. ranagrande - 23/01/2011 12:56:07 PM 974 Views
there's tons of problems there, but 20+ leaders/royals killed? Disaster anywhere... *NM* newyorkersedai - 23/01/2011 11:38:57 AM 498 Views
Funny; Caemlyn's succession crises aren't nearly as bad. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/01/2011 11:00:45 PM 488 Views
Rand deserves some credit, he did get involved early and held the Lion Throne for Elayne. *NM* Libby - 24/01/2011 08:47:42 AM 523 Views
The anarchy is what happens in the absence of Seanchan power. Cannoli - 27/01/2011 01:10:56 PM 981 Views
Yes. That is a flaw of Seanchan governance. Ghavrel - 28/01/2011 01:54:00 AM 887 Views
It's not the Empire's fault, and that flaw is not being duplicated in the wetlands Cannoli - 28/01/2011 11:24:00 PM 1148 Views
Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? fionwe1987 - 29/01/2011 02:09:05 AM 900 Views
Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? ranagrande - 29/01/2011 01:10:36 PM 989 Views
Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? fionwe1987 - 29/01/2011 10:02:27 PM 831 Views
Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? ranagrande - 30/01/2011 03:56:23 AM 1047 Views
It's like you don't even read anything when you post. My posts, the books themselves... Cannoli - 02/02/2011 06:41:10 PM 1021 Views
They treat channelers like DOGS! so, No. *NM* Evil_Monkey - 23/01/2011 07:56:22 AM 492 Views
I treat my dog better *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 23/01/2011 10:28:08 AM 482 Views
Good point. *NM* Evil_Monkey - 24/01/2011 01:47:29 AM 505 Views
Dogs never broke the world or created Shadowspawn, so they have it coming *NM* Cannoli - 27/01/2011 01:07:32 PM 470 Views
The Pattern certainly has some plan or purpose for the Seanchan. Libby - 23/01/2011 10:59:33 AM 1063 Views
That's what's scary. In many ways, the Seanchan embody the goals of the Pattern Lord Haart - 23/01/2011 11:41:35 PM 905 Views
If we're going to personify things, we should be personifying the Wheel, not the Pattern. Ghavrel - 24/01/2011 12:13:49 AM 932 Views
I think it's interesting Libby - 24/01/2011 09:23:40 AM 945 Views
There has been ta'veren since Hawkwing and before the Triple. Lohikaarme - 28/01/2011 11:56:46 AM 1005 Views
Who were they? Libby - 29/01/2011 12:33:58 AM 878 Views
Re: That's what's scary. In many ways, the Seanchan embody the goals of the Pattern Lo'oris - 24/01/2011 12:38:38 PM 856 Views
Um, no newyorkersedai - 23/01/2011 11:36:24 AM 1016 Views
look around you again redhand - 23/01/2011 03:24:01 PM 972 Views
Re: look around you again Lo'oris - 23/01/2011 03:54:49 PM 978 Views
Seanchan equality before the law Zeratul - 23/01/2011 04:09:54 PM 1011 Views
Re: Seanchan equality before the law Watcher - 23/01/2011 04:22:28 PM 989 Views
a) most of that is your own extrapolation, not shown in the text moratcorlm - 23/01/2011 04:56:14 PM 962 Views
Yes. moratcorlm - 23/01/2011 04:47:30 PM 955 Views
Mostly, yes. redqueen - 23/01/2011 05:57:17 PM 927 Views
Re: Mostly, yes. Lo'oris - 23/01/2011 06:10:10 PM 942 Views
Re: Mostly, yes. ranagrande - 23/01/2011 06:33:00 PM 1032 Views
Re: Mostly, yes. Lo'oris - 23/01/2011 11:03:36 PM 915 Views
Not really redqueen - 23/01/2011 07:12:27 PM 922 Views
I disagree. Bergioyn - 25/01/2011 07:17:18 PM 921 Views
I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Skeeve the Great - 24/01/2011 08:04:21 PM 1039 Views
Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Lo'oris - 25/01/2011 10:40:58 AM 865 Views
Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Skeeve the Great - 25/01/2011 05:55:13 PM 897 Views
Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Lo'oris - 26/01/2011 12:10:54 AM 1105 Views
"We" don't know of the One Power existing, so obviously it disappears. *NM* Deadsy - 26/01/2011 12:14:19 AM 505 Views
Lack of knowledge doesn't mean the One Power vanishes or is destroyed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/01/2011 04:03:22 PM 854 Views
If OP still existed, you'd still have sparkers even "today". *NM* Myrdhyn - 26/01/2011 06:34:50 PM 487 Views
Not exactly; genetics are more complicated. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/01/2011 09:48:48 PM 926 Views
No RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/01/2011 05:41:09 PM 1050 Views
Ah, um, no. Ghavrel - 29/01/2011 11:53:16 PM 950 Views
The thing is orius - 04/02/2011 05:29:15 AM 893 Views
They didn't break anything Lo'oris - 04/02/2011 02:13:10 PM 970 Views
Contemplate this then.... Jeordam - 04/02/2011 10:29:09 PM 1007 Views
Re: Contemplate this then.... redqueen - 06/02/2011 12:44:21 AM 970 Views
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