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Contemplate this then.... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 04/02/2011 10:29:09 PM
Think about the (real) world right now. How do you feel about slavery and torture? How do you feel about the whole "waterboarding" thing? Gitmo and the indefinate incarceration? Do you like these things? Are you "Ok" with it?

Now imagine if this was not just an isolated (if horrible) event, but was society wide. And guess what...no one...not even in protest....ever thought it was wrong. Instead you have a society that is so used to it, that they actually believe that the way that they are treating those individuals is correct. Is so correct that they go willingly to it.

Now ponder that for a moment. Is all that orderly society stuff really worth living in an environment that is based upon such ideals?

~Jeordam
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Saving the Princess, Humanity, or the World-Entire since 1985
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Seanchan Takeover of Randland Mordie01 - 22/01/2011 11:25:36 PM 2221 Views
I would be mostly okay with it if they abolished slavery first Deadsy - 23/01/2011 12:19:48 AM 1161 Views
Hopefully the Dragon's Peace (not the one Avi saw the effects of) those concerns. *NM* Japhy - 23/01/2011 03:21:04 AM 540 Views
You mean utter anarchy and a dangerously stratified society? Ghavrel - 23/01/2011 07:24:48 AM 930 Views
The situation in Seanchan isn't that unique ranagrande - 23/01/2011 07:49:28 AM 975 Views
Except with continous rebellion. Chas - 23/01/2011 12:13:17 PM 968 Views
That's to be expected. ranagrande - 23/01/2011 12:56:07 PM 915 Views
there's tons of problems there, but 20+ leaders/royals killed? Disaster anywhere... *NM* newyorkersedai - 23/01/2011 11:38:57 AM 473 Views
Funny; Caemlyn's succession crises aren't nearly as bad. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/01/2011 11:00:45 PM 467 Views
Rand deserves some credit, he did get involved early and held the Lion Throne for Elayne. *NM* Libby - 24/01/2011 08:47:42 AM 498 Views
The anarchy is what happens in the absence of Seanchan power. Cannoli - 27/01/2011 01:10:56 PM 924 Views
Yes. That is a flaw of Seanchan governance. Ghavrel - 28/01/2011 01:54:00 AM 837 Views
It's not the Empire's fault, and that flaw is not being duplicated in the wetlands Cannoli - 28/01/2011 11:24:00 PM 1093 Views
Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? fionwe1987 - 29/01/2011 02:09:05 AM 854 Views
Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? ranagrande - 29/01/2011 01:10:36 PM 945 Views
Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? fionwe1987 - 29/01/2011 10:02:27 PM 789 Views
Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? ranagrande - 30/01/2011 03:56:23 AM 995 Views
It's like you don't even read anything when you post. My posts, the books themselves... Cannoli - 02/02/2011 06:41:10 PM 969 Views
They treat channelers like DOGS! so, No. *NM* Evil_Monkey - 23/01/2011 07:56:22 AM 470 Views
I treat my dog better *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 23/01/2011 10:28:08 AM 459 Views
Good point. *NM* Evil_Monkey - 24/01/2011 01:47:29 AM 486 Views
Dogs never broke the world or created Shadowspawn, so they have it coming *NM* Cannoli - 27/01/2011 01:07:32 PM 446 Views
The Pattern certainly has some plan or purpose for the Seanchan. Libby - 23/01/2011 10:59:33 AM 1019 Views
That's what's scary. In many ways, the Seanchan embody the goals of the Pattern Lord Haart - 23/01/2011 11:41:35 PM 862 Views
If we're going to personify things, we should be personifying the Wheel, not the Pattern. Ghavrel - 24/01/2011 12:13:49 AM 891 Views
I think it's interesting Libby - 24/01/2011 09:23:40 AM 899 Views
There has been ta'veren since Hawkwing and before the Triple. Lohikaarme - 28/01/2011 11:56:46 AM 960 Views
Who were they? Libby - 29/01/2011 12:33:58 AM 840 Views
Re: That's what's scary. In many ways, the Seanchan embody the goals of the Pattern Lo'oris - 24/01/2011 12:38:38 PM 813 Views
Um, no newyorkersedai - 23/01/2011 11:36:24 AM 960 Views
look around you again redhand - 23/01/2011 03:24:01 PM 924 Views
Re: look around you again Lo'oris - 23/01/2011 03:54:49 PM 935 Views
Seanchan equality before the law Zeratul - 23/01/2011 04:09:54 PM 970 Views
Re: Seanchan equality before the law Watcher - 23/01/2011 04:22:28 PM 935 Views
a) most of that is your own extrapolation, not shown in the text moratcorlm - 23/01/2011 04:56:14 PM 909 Views
Yes. moratcorlm - 23/01/2011 04:47:30 PM 904 Views
Mostly, yes. redqueen - 23/01/2011 05:57:17 PM 879 Views
Re: Mostly, yes. Lo'oris - 23/01/2011 06:10:10 PM 903 Views
Re: Mostly, yes. ranagrande - 23/01/2011 06:33:00 PM 976 Views
Re: Mostly, yes. Lo'oris - 23/01/2011 11:03:36 PM 868 Views
Not really redqueen - 23/01/2011 07:12:27 PM 883 Views
I disagree. Bergioyn - 25/01/2011 07:17:18 PM 877 Views
I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Skeeve the Great - 24/01/2011 08:04:21 PM 991 Views
Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Lo'oris - 25/01/2011 10:40:58 AM 810 Views
Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Skeeve the Great - 25/01/2011 05:55:13 PM 852 Views
Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Lo'oris - 26/01/2011 12:10:54 AM 1054 Views
"We" don't know of the One Power existing, so obviously it disappears. *NM* Deadsy - 26/01/2011 12:14:19 AM 484 Views
Lack of knowledge doesn't mean the One Power vanishes or is destroyed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/01/2011 04:03:22 PM 813 Views
If OP still existed, you'd still have sparkers even "today". *NM* Myrdhyn - 26/01/2011 06:34:50 PM 464 Views
Not exactly; genetics are more complicated. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/01/2011 09:48:48 PM 884 Views
No RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/01/2011 05:41:09 PM 998 Views
Ah, um, no. Ghavrel - 29/01/2011 11:53:16 PM 902 Views
The thing is orius - 04/02/2011 05:29:15 AM 845 Views
They didn't break anything Lo'oris - 04/02/2011 02:13:10 PM 918 Views
Contemplate this then.... Jeordam - 04/02/2011 10:29:09 PM 967 Views
Re: Contemplate this then.... redqueen - 06/02/2011 12:44:21 AM 910 Views
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