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Not really redqueen Send a noteboard - 23/01/2011 07:12:27 PM
As civilisations go, the Seanchan one isn't the worst one to live in, as long as you aren't a channeler with the spark (0.01% of the population)

Yeah, just like Nazi Germany, as long as you aren't a jew, or a dissident.
(yes, yes, Godwin's law)


WWII Germany was trying to become an Empire, but unlike the Seanchan Empire, they took key decisions on a (seriously flawed) idealogical basis. The 'master race' crap meant that (i) they wasted time and resources attacking their own citizens, for ridiculous and arbitrary reasons, and so undermined their own strength; and (ii) they had to conquer and subdue every country they fought, unlike the Seanchan, who absorb the existing power structures and work through them.

The Seanchan empire is a totalitarian dictatorship, there's no glossing over that. But, arguably, so is every nation in Randland apart from Far Madding. In terms of how it treats it citizens, I'd argue Seanchan is better. Even damane and da'covale have a better life than a peasant farmer on the edge of ruin, or a dockworker in Tear strung up for looking the wrong way at a noble.
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Seanchan Takeover of Randland Mordie01 - 22/01/2011 11:25:36 PM 2307 Views
I would be mostly okay with it if they abolished slavery first Deadsy - 23/01/2011 12:19:48 AM 1231 Views
Hopefully the Dragon's Peace (not the one Avi saw the effects of) those concerns. *NM* Japhy - 23/01/2011 03:21:04 AM 578 Views
You mean utter anarchy and a dangerously stratified society? Ghavrel - 23/01/2011 07:24:48 AM 1006 Views
The situation in Seanchan isn't that unique ranagrande - 23/01/2011 07:49:28 AM 1055 Views
Except with continous rebellion. Chas - 23/01/2011 12:13:17 PM 1048 Views
That's to be expected. ranagrande - 23/01/2011 12:56:07 PM 1002 Views
there's tons of problems there, but 20+ leaders/royals killed? Disaster anywhere... *NM* newyorkersedai - 23/01/2011 11:38:57 AM 519 Views
Funny; Caemlyn's succession crises aren't nearly as bad. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/01/2011 11:00:45 PM 511 Views
Rand deserves some credit, he did get involved early and held the Lion Throne for Elayne. *NM* Libby - 24/01/2011 08:47:42 AM 540 Views
The anarchy is what happens in the absence of Seanchan power. Cannoli - 27/01/2011 01:10:56 PM 1016 Views
Yes. That is a flaw of Seanchan governance. Ghavrel - 28/01/2011 01:54:00 AM 915 Views
It's not the Empire's fault, and that flaw is not being duplicated in the wetlands Cannoli - 28/01/2011 11:24:00 PM 1201 Views
Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? fionwe1987 - 29/01/2011 02:09:05 AM 926 Views
Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? ranagrande - 29/01/2011 01:10:36 PM 1023 Views
Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? fionwe1987 - 29/01/2011 10:02:27 PM 852 Views
Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years? ranagrande - 30/01/2011 03:56:23 AM 1074 Views
It's like you don't even read anything when you post. My posts, the books themselves... Cannoli - 02/02/2011 06:41:10 PM 1049 Views
They treat channelers like DOGS! so, No. *NM* Evil_Monkey - 23/01/2011 07:56:22 AM 510 Views
I treat my dog better *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 23/01/2011 10:28:08 AM 493 Views
Good point. *NM* Evil_Monkey - 24/01/2011 01:47:29 AM 514 Views
Dogs never broke the world or created Shadowspawn, so they have it coming *NM* Cannoli - 27/01/2011 01:07:32 PM 494 Views
The Pattern certainly has some plan or purpose for the Seanchan. Libby - 23/01/2011 10:59:33 AM 1090 Views
That's what's scary. In many ways, the Seanchan embody the goals of the Pattern Lord Haart - 23/01/2011 11:41:35 PM 930 Views
If we're going to personify things, we should be personifying the Wheel, not the Pattern. Ghavrel - 24/01/2011 12:13:49 AM 956 Views
I think it's interesting Libby - 24/01/2011 09:23:40 AM 975 Views
There has been ta'veren since Hawkwing and before the Triple. Lohikaarme - 28/01/2011 11:56:46 AM 1035 Views
Who were they? Libby - 29/01/2011 12:33:58 AM 911 Views
Re: That's what's scary. In many ways, the Seanchan embody the goals of the Pattern Lo'oris - 24/01/2011 12:38:38 PM 875 Views
Um, no newyorkersedai - 23/01/2011 11:36:24 AM 1048 Views
look around you again redhand - 23/01/2011 03:24:01 PM 1024 Views
Re: look around you again Lo'oris - 23/01/2011 03:54:49 PM 994 Views
Seanchan equality before the law Zeratul - 23/01/2011 04:09:54 PM 1054 Views
Re: Seanchan equality before the law Watcher - 23/01/2011 04:22:28 PM 1017 Views
a) most of that is your own extrapolation, not shown in the text moratcorlm - 23/01/2011 04:56:14 PM 990 Views
Yes. moratcorlm - 23/01/2011 04:47:30 PM 991 Views
Mostly, yes. redqueen - 23/01/2011 05:57:17 PM 956 Views
Re: Mostly, yes. Lo'oris - 23/01/2011 06:10:10 PM 973 Views
Re: Mostly, yes. ranagrande - 23/01/2011 06:33:00 PM 1061 Views
Re: Mostly, yes. Lo'oris - 23/01/2011 11:03:36 PM 943 Views
Not really redqueen - 23/01/2011 07:12:27 PM 949 Views
I disagree. Bergioyn - 25/01/2011 07:17:18 PM 951 Views
I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Skeeve the Great - 24/01/2011 08:04:21 PM 1076 Views
Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Lo'oris - 25/01/2011 10:40:58 AM 897 Views
Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Skeeve the Great - 25/01/2011 05:55:13 PM 918 Views
Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling. Lo'oris - 26/01/2011 12:10:54 AM 1138 Views
"We" don't know of the One Power existing, so obviously it disappears. *NM* Deadsy - 26/01/2011 12:14:19 AM 523 Views
Lack of knowledge doesn't mean the One Power vanishes or is destroyed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/01/2011 04:03:22 PM 881 Views
If OP still existed, you'd still have sparkers even "today". *NM* Myrdhyn - 26/01/2011 06:34:50 PM 503 Views
Not exactly; genetics are more complicated. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/01/2011 09:48:48 PM 973 Views
No RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/01/2011 05:41:09 PM 1081 Views
Ah, um, no. Ghavrel - 29/01/2011 11:53:16 PM 987 Views
The thing is orius - 04/02/2011 05:29:15 AM 929 Views
They didn't break anything Lo'oris - 04/02/2011 02:13:10 PM 993 Views
Contemplate this then.... Jeordam - 04/02/2011 10:29:09 PM 1038 Views
Re: Contemplate this then.... redqueen - 06/02/2011 12:44:21 AM 993 Views
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