It's not the Empire's fault, and that flaw is not being duplicated in the wetlands
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 28/01/2011 11:24:00 PM
The Westland nations (I WON'T USE WETLANDS BECAUSE THERE'S AN OCEAN AND IT'S WETTER THAN THE "WETLANDS." ), typically having a much less centralized state, are more secure in the event of many leaders dying. The historic suceession crises of Andor do not seem to be close to what Seanchan is experiencing.
The wetlands (TOUCHE, sir!) are not the same situation as Seanchan before the Empire. Those lands were chaotic and unstable, and the people had no concepts of honor and justice. The Imperials brought and imposed all of that and they did it by force because they had to. They are not the typical national government as we think of it, rather they are a long-term occupation authority or colonization force out of contact with home. As we see in the books (read the damn things, please), in lands they conquer which DO have a viable society and government, they leave it in place for the most part. That over-centralized system (from discussions on the CMB, it would be hard to imagine you needing to lecture me on the danger of an overly centralized government) does not seem to be the case in their Empire in these lands, since Taraboners et al, are more reliable than native Seanchan. You can leave a guy like Beslan in charge of Altara while getting on with the big stuff, but in Seanchan, the Imperials had to keep it all tied to the authority of the Crystal Throne, because all the locals were d-bags. They appear to be setting up a more federated system in the wetlands which is capable of surviving such a coup de grace as the mass murder of the Imperial family (though such a blow might destabilize the overall union, the individual parts would have their own identity and societal structures that would allow them to carry on - if Seanchan fails, the memory of Altara and Tarabon can stave off chaos).
Cannoli
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"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
Seanchan Takeover of Randland
- 22/01/2011 11:25:36 PM
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I would be mostly okay with it if they abolished slavery first
- 23/01/2011 12:19:48 AM
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Hopefully the Dragon's Peace (not the one Avi saw the effects of) those concerns. *NM*
- 23/01/2011 03:21:04 AM
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You mean utter anarchy and a dangerously stratified society?
- 23/01/2011 07:24:48 AM
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The situation in Seanchan isn't that unique
- 23/01/2011 07:49:28 AM
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there's tons of problems there, but 20+ leaders/royals killed? Disaster anywhere... *NM*
- 23/01/2011 11:38:57 AM
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Funny; Caemlyn's succession crises aren't nearly as bad. *NM*
- 23/01/2011 11:00:45 PM
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Rand deserves some credit, he did get involved early and held the Lion Throne for Elayne. *NM*
- 24/01/2011 08:47:42 AM
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The anarchy is what happens in the absence of Seanchan power.
- 27/01/2011 01:10:56 PM
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Yes. That is a flaw of Seanchan governance.
- 28/01/2011 01:54:00 AM
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It's not the Empire's fault, and that flaw is not being duplicated in the wetlands
- 28/01/2011 11:24:00 PM
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Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years?
- 29/01/2011 02:09:05 AM
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Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years?
- 29/01/2011 01:10:36 PM
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Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years?
- 29/01/2011 10:02:27 PM
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Re: Wait... the indegenous Seanchan haven't changed in a thousand years?
- 30/01/2011 03:56:23 AM
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It's like you don't even read anything when you post. My posts, the books themselves...
- 02/02/2011 06:41:10 PM
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They treat channelers like DOGS! so, No. *NM*
- 23/01/2011 07:56:22 AM
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Dogs never broke the world or created Shadowspawn, so they have it coming *NM*
- 27/01/2011 01:07:32 PM
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The Pattern certainly has some plan or purpose for the Seanchan.
- 23/01/2011 10:59:33 AM
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That's what's scary. In many ways, the Seanchan embody the goals of the Pattern
- 23/01/2011 11:41:35 PM
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If we're going to personify things, we should be personifying the Wheel, not the Pattern.
- 24/01/2011 12:13:49 AM
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I think it's interesting
- 24/01/2011 09:23:40 AM
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Re: That's what's scary. In many ways, the Seanchan embody the goals of the Pattern
- 24/01/2011 12:38:38 PM
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Um, no
- 23/01/2011 11:36:24 AM
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look around you again
- 23/01/2011 03:24:01 PM
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Seanchan equality before the law
- 23/01/2011 04:09:54 PM
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Re: Seanchan equality before the law
- 23/01/2011 04:22:28 PM
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a) most of that is your own extrapolation, not shown in the text
- 23/01/2011 04:56:14 PM
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Mostly, yes.
- 23/01/2011 05:57:17 PM
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Re: Mostly, yes.
- 23/01/2011 06:10:10 PM
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I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling.
- 24/01/2011 08:04:21 PM
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Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling.
- 25/01/2011 10:40:58 AM
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Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling.
- 25/01/2011 05:55:13 PM
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Re: I see them as neccessary evil to eventually eliminate channeling.
- 26/01/2011 12:10:54 AM
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"We" don't know of the One Power existing, so obviously it disappears. *NM*
- 26/01/2011 12:14:19 AM
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Lack of knowledge doesn't mean the One Power vanishes or is destroyed.
- 26/01/2011 04:03:22 PM
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If OP still existed, you'd still have sparkers even "today". *NM*
- 26/01/2011 06:34:50 PM
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