Mesaana implores Moridin for help in rescuing Semirhage. She states, "We haven't the resources" to attempt a rescue. From this simple statement we learn several things.
First, Demandred is not controlling the black tower. If he was, then he would have the resources needed (i.e. channelers) to launch an attack against Rand and try to rescue Semirhage.
Second, Moridin does have access to channelers. This pretty much confirms that Moridin is running events at the black tower through Mazrim Taim.
Third, Demandred is not controlling the Seanchan or the Sharans. There have been some theories out there that both Semirhage and Demandred were controlling the Seanchan. These theories should be dispelled now. If Demandred had control of the Seanchan then he would have the resources (e.g. damane) to attempt a rescue. Similarly, if Demandred was controlling the Sharans, he would have access to their channelers. This clearly shows Demandred is not set up in Shara.
The only possibilities left for Demandred have been thought of by everyone else. Either Demandred has Murandy in his control (this is what I believe is true) or else he really does have the borderlanders in his grasp (a possibility, but less likely in my opinion).
First, Demandred is not controlling the black tower. If he was, then he would have the resources needed (i.e. channelers) to launch an attack against Rand and try to rescue Semirhage.
Second, Moridin does have access to channelers. This pretty much confirms that Moridin is running events at the black tower through Mazrim Taim.
Third, Demandred is not controlling the Seanchan or the Sharans. There have been some theories out there that both Semirhage and Demandred were controlling the Seanchan. These theories should be dispelled now. If Demandred had control of the Seanchan then he would have the resources (e.g. damane) to attempt a rescue. Similarly, if Demandred was controlling the Sharans, he would have access to their channelers. This clearly shows Demandred is not set up in Shara.
The only possibilities left for Demandred have been thought of by everyone else. Either Demandred has Murandy in his control (this is what I believe is true) or else he really does have the borderlanders in his grasp (a possibility, but less likely in my opinion).
Two other things that it could mean, just of the top of my head:
1) The resources (channelers) are there, but they cannot access them without Moridin's permission. I.e., they control these channelers but have been forbidden to use them unless Moridin gives them the o.k. I think this is highly likely, especially because it is difficult to imagine that Moridin did NOT give instructions that anything having to do with interactions with the Dragon Reborn must be pre-approved.
2) They can't find Rand and need Moridin's help in doing so. Remember Moridin and Cyndane (Lanfear) can track ta'veren by reading the pattern. We don't know of any other Forsaken that have this ability.
TGS Prologue - your thoughts (part 2) *spoilers*
- 16/09/2009 04:55:21 AM
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Where can i find it at? Can someone give me a link? *NM*
- 18/09/2009 02:21:10 AM
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mobipocket.com
- 18/09/2009 02:53:13 AM
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Thanks, It was interesting especially the last part of the prologue *NM*
- 20/09/2009 02:42:28 AM
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A pointless survey - take your guess at who wrote what of the Prologue
- 18/09/2009 01:30:24 PM
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Re: A pointless survey - take your guess at who wrote what of the Prologue
- 18/09/2009 07:08:43 PM
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The prologue gives us strong evidence that Graendal is weaker than Demi or Semi
- 18/09/2009 03:55:58 PM
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I'm a little surprised nobody is discussing this. I thought this would get more attention. *NM*
- 20/09/2009 09:17:57 PM
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Is it me or do the Forsaken seem more viscious?
- 18/09/2009 04:17:22 PM
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yep, leaner and meaner...except for mesaana-she's still twitchy after shadar haran *NM*
- 18/09/2009 05:09:29 PM
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Trollocs!
- 18/09/2009 05:35:12 PM
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Why not a gray man then?
- 18/09/2009 07:52:55 PM
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Because they wanted to destroy as much of the force as possible
- 19/09/2009 12:07:57 AM
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But there's no plausible deniability
- 19/09/2009 12:50:42 AM
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But even several grey men or slayer aren't going to get the deed done
- 19/09/2009 02:28:36 AM
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Who is Graendal going to wack?
- 18/09/2009 06:00:12 PM
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I think it could be Tam. *NM*
- 18/09/2009 06:05:12 PM
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Great idea.
- 18/09/2009 07:12:40 PM
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Its about time for Perrin to reunite with Rand he's got Faile back
- 18/09/2009 08:15:47 PM
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Re: Its about time for Perrin to reunite with Rand he's got Faile back
- 18/09/2009 10:41:12 PM
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Mesaana's statement gives us a big clue about Demandred's and Moridin's whereabouts
- 18/09/2009 09:11:49 PM
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Or
- 18/09/2009 10:38:52 PM
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My favorite quote: "Who will win? The child or the fool?" - Graendal
- 18/09/2009 09:48:55 PM
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but she didn't say 'the fool or the fool'
- 19/09/2009 02:07:20 PM
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- 19/09/2009 02:07:20 PM
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Yes, because Cannoli has long valued the opinions of the Forsaken...
- 20/09/2009 06:10:58 AM
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- 20/09/2009 06:10:58 AM
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Forsaken Chapter
- 18/09/2009 10:30:10 PM
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I agree that Graendal will die in this book.... her and A'rangar *NM*
- 19/09/2009 08:14:07 AM
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Re: Forsaken Chapter
- 19/09/2009 09:53:31 AM
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Various comments
- 19/09/2009 05:38:21 PM
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The Dying Man
- 19/09/2009 06:48:09 PM
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After a reread I think I know who sent the Trollocs
- 19/09/2009 08:28:08 PM
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Another reason why Moridin is not Taim
- 19/09/2009 08:41:03 PM
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This isn't evidence.
- 19/09/2009 08:51:54 PM
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It isn't evidence, but it is another perspective to add to the table
- 19/09/2009 09:11:15 PM
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Why is Moridin and not Demandred marshalling the Dark Forces in the Blight?
- 19/09/2009 10:35:06 PM
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I think there are many issues here
- 19/09/2009 10:51:13 PM
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The Malign Influence of the Forsaken
- 19/09/2009 11:08:00 PM
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I have doubts about that degree of conversion
- 19/09/2009 11:17:44 PM
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Re: Why is Moridin and not Demandred marshalling the Dark Forces in the Blight?
- 20/09/2009 09:44:06 AM
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Did Demandred make the connection between Moridin's phantom hand-pain and Semirhage's firebolt?
- 20/09/2009 12:11:32 PM
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I don't think that Demandred will be a key player at the end with Rand
- 20/09/2009 01:00:58 PM
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Some sweeping statements there...
- 20/09/2009 01:21:46 PM
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Not at all
- 20/09/2009 03:34:59 PM
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A lot of twisting my words there, and direct contradictions of your own points...
- 20/09/2009 04:19:57 PM
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Not really
- 20/09/2009 05:12:42 PM
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I couldn't have summarized it better myself...
- 20/09/2009 05:25:56 PM
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But...
- 20/09/2009 06:01:33 PM
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Possible...
- 20/09/2009 06:08:21 PM
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So that's your argument now?
- 20/09/2009 07:35:52 PM
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- 20/09/2009 07:35:52 PM
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I think you took that the wrong way...
- 20/09/2009 08:53:28 PM
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Wow, then I think you're in for a surprise
- 20/09/2009 08:38:37 PM
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Just a general comment...
- 20/09/2009 09:13:51 PM
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Re: Just a general comment...
- 20/09/2009 09:59:51 PM
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I reject the cult of the "cool" villain.
- 20/09/2009 11:24:40 PM
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I don't really agree
- 21/09/2009 05:02:10 AM
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But these aren't criminals...
- 21/09/2009 05:47:40 AM
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