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Re: Just a general comment... Shannow Send a noteboard - 20/09/2009 10:19:14 PM
Now the second greatest man from the AOL is a feat which is appealing, and that's why I do think he'll show his strategic vision and prowess. As a channeler I don't think he's better than Lanfear, Sammael, Semirhage or Graendal - so I don't think you'll get much more there. The Cleansing threw the Forsaken into the battleground and they all suffered to greater or lesser extents. If there was any evidence that Demandred was set up to be the grand display at the end of the series, I would almost welcome it, but I think he hasn't been shown to be superior to the other six, and RJ will give him a parallel plot, which is always disappointing to me. But it always happens to. After Semirhage, I don't have much hope for anything. I don't think Graendal will achieve much, but she'll probably die in this book.


But this is where I see a difference. I am willing to accept for the sake of argument that Lanfear, Sammael, Semirhage, Graendal and Demandred have similar channeling capabilities - although Demandred remains the ONLY one ever to be mentioned as approaching Lews Therin SKILL as well as his strength. Nevertheless, even if Demandred is not a greater channeler than the other top 6, that level of channeling should be sufficient for him to achieve a lot.

Sammael did not lose to Rand due to inferior channeling ability, neither did Lanfear or Semirhage. They lost because they were outmaneuvered - whether due to bad luck or lack of attention to detail or whatever.

I believe that Demandred is a better strategist, better politician and better "operator" than all of them. He was the Shadow's most cunning general. My hopes lie not in him outmatching Rand in a one on one Power duel - which no one can succeed at. No, my hopes are based on his great One Power ability being coupled with his unmatched strategic brilliance to make a serious dent in the Light's chances.

I HATE the idea that general, random chaos is the Light's greatest threat. This idea that an undirected, non-specific background condition is the Shadow's greatest weapon. I'd MUCH prefer a brilliant general directing the Shadow's campaign, than a bunch of stooges just going around creating general chaos to spoil food, cause people to sink into the ground and the Pattern to disintegrate. It is pretty lame, if you ask me.

Give me some "mano-a-mano" tactical contests. Despite everything up to now, I have too much time invested in this series to lose all hope. I remain hopeful that Demandred will dish up something to savour.
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TGS Prologue - your thoughts (part 2) *spoilers* - 16/09/2009 04:55:21 AM 3578 Views
Where can i find it at? Can someone give me a link? *NM* - 18/09/2009 02:21:10 AM 442 Views
mobipocket.com - 18/09/2009 02:53:13 AM 998 Views
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A pointless survey - take your guess at who wrote what of the Prologue - 18/09/2009 01:30:24 PM 831 Views
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You blame her? *NM* - 18/09/2009 08:05:46 PM 504 Views
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*NM* - 19/09/2009 04:20:29 AM 577 Views
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Lol *NM* - 20/09/2009 08:26:53 AM 1016 Views
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Fair enough... - 19/09/2009 05:08:33 PM 1272 Views
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This isn't evidence. - 19/09/2009 08:51:54 PM 938 Views
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Some sweeping statements there... - 20/09/2009 01:21:46 PM 884 Views
Not at all - 20/09/2009 03:34:59 PM 951 Views
A lot of twisting my words there, and direct contradictions of your own points... - 20/09/2009 04:19:57 PM 945 Views
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I couldn't have summarized it better myself... - 20/09/2009 05:25:56 PM 815 Views
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Just a general comment... - 20/09/2009 09:13:51 PM 976 Views
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Re: Just a general comment... - 20/09/2009 10:19:14 PM 858 Views
Re: Just a general comment... - 21/09/2009 04:58:38 AM 750 Views
I reject the cult of the "cool" villain. - 20/09/2009 11:24:40 PM 841 Views
I don't really agree - 21/09/2009 05:02:10 AM 942 Views
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Doubt it... - 20/09/2009 02:10:37 PM 888 Views
I tend to agree with you, this time. - 20/09/2009 05:05:35 PM 791 Views

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