You're completely right that Nynaeve parallels Rand too. Implicit in my statement that it made sense for Egwene to be there due to her parallels to Rand was the understanding that Nynaeve completed those parallels and the unity of Egwene and Nynaeve balanced out the whole of Rand. Which is why it made sense to me that the three of them would be there at the very end (if this is the very end).
But I also think you undercut the parallels between Egwene and Rand when you say she only parallels the political side of Rand. That is the strongest part, but they also are very similar in personality. As a person, Rand is more like Egwene than Nynaeve, in his quieter stubbornness, his ability to focus. They also tent to think very similarly, in a way that is very different from Nynaeve's logical leaps.
And I think you're wrong when you say that Egwene doesn't have similarities to Rand's "champion" side. Take the "land being one with the Dragon". You see a similar tie between the Tower and Egwene. When she is beaten, cut up, and locked in a cell, the Tower is at its lowest ebb, with even Reds ready to turn on each other. When she finally becomes Amyrlin, she feels something becoming "right" in the world.
And they are both now tied strongly to the only two named sa'angreal remaining in the series. I don't think it is coincidental at all that Vora's wand became instrumental in gaining Egwene the Amyrlin Seat; You could even say that when she took it from deep in the stone (the stone basement of the Tower), she was seen and accepted as Amyrlin.
Then, there's the symbolic representation of the two. Rand is represented by the Dragon's Fang, Egwene by the white flame (even in Min's visions). Together, Rand and Egwene represent the united Aes Sedai symbol, the one under which Rand will conquer. That surely alludes to their impending political unity to face the LB together, but I'm not at all certain this unity won't also be required at the final face-off at Shayol Ghul.
As for Egwene and battles, you're right that her political role will prevent her from launching into the field... but only in the beginning. Remember that the characters are going to go through hell in aMoL. Very soon, I don't think anyone wil be able to sit on the sidelines. And I think Egwene's time learning damane weaves of destruction, her own prodigious ability for innovation, her choice of the Green Ajah, her parallel to Rashima Kerenmosa as the woman who succeeds the Red Amyrlin who betrays the greatest force against the Shadow, and her recent tie to Vora's sa'angreal will all come together. I really don't have any doubts that Egwene will be forced to be a Soldier Amyrlin. It goes against the deepest kernel of her personality to sit back and let other's do what she herself can do better. She'll fight, only she'll take more precautions, and be better prepared for the worst. That's what the Senachan attack and the battle with Mesaana were all about... teaching her to balance between her politcal role, and her desire to fight directly. I don't think she's giving up either role anytime soon.
But I also think you undercut the parallels between Egwene and Rand when you say she only parallels the political side of Rand. That is the strongest part, but they also are very similar in personality. As a person, Rand is more like Egwene than Nynaeve, in his quieter stubbornness, his ability to focus. They also tent to think very similarly, in a way that is very different from Nynaeve's logical leaps.
And I think you're wrong when you say that Egwene doesn't have similarities to Rand's "champion" side. Take the "land being one with the Dragon". You see a similar tie between the Tower and Egwene. When she is beaten, cut up, and locked in a cell, the Tower is at its lowest ebb, with even Reds ready to turn on each other. When she finally becomes Amyrlin, she feels something becoming "right" in the world.
And they are both now tied strongly to the only two named sa'angreal remaining in the series. I don't think it is coincidental at all that Vora's wand became instrumental in gaining Egwene the Amyrlin Seat; You could even say that when she took it from deep in the stone (the stone basement of the Tower), she was seen and accepted as Amyrlin.
Then, there's the symbolic representation of the two. Rand is represented by the Dragon's Fang, Egwene by the white flame (even in Min's visions). Together, Rand and Egwene represent the united Aes Sedai symbol, the one under which Rand will conquer. That surely alludes to their impending political unity to face the LB together, but I'm not at all certain this unity won't also be required at the final face-off at Shayol Ghul.
As for Egwene and battles, you're right that her political role will prevent her from launching into the field... but only in the beginning. Remember that the characters are going to go through hell in aMoL. Very soon, I don't think anyone wil be able to sit on the sidelines. And I think Egwene's time learning damane weaves of destruction, her own prodigious ability for innovation, her choice of the Green Ajah, her parallel to Rashima Kerenmosa as the woman who succeeds the Red Amyrlin who betrays the greatest force against the Shadow, and her recent tie to Vora's sa'angreal will all come together. I really don't have any doubts that Egwene will be forced to be a Soldier Amyrlin. It goes against the deepest kernel of her personality to sit back and let other's do what she herself can do better. She'll fight, only she'll take more precautions, and be better prepared for the worst. That's what the Senachan attack and the battle with Mesaana were all about... teaching her to balance between her politcal role, and her desire to fight directly. I don't think she's giving up either role anytime soon.
The cover for A Memory of Light is revealed.
- 03/05/2012 03:52:14 PM
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- 03/05/2012 04:08:09 PM
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I think I like Callandor from TDR better..
- 03/05/2012 04:26:42 PM
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I really like it
- 03/05/2012 05:54:51 PM
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The sword grip is not akward or wrong
- 03/05/2012 06:20:54 PM
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well, for one, I didn't say it was "wrong" so don't jump down my throat.
- 04/05/2012 10:03:06 PM
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If you think that was jumping down your throat... seriously... *NM*
- 07/05/2012 01:51:45 PM
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when I initially read it, it came off that way. I apologize if I misinterpreted you. *NM*
- 09/05/2012 04:58:13 PM
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Its the sword thats not a sword (its a night light!)
- 04/05/2012 04:47:27 PM
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oh no fair enough! like i said, I just think it looks a little awkward.
- 04/05/2012 10:04:21 PM
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Well...
- 03/05/2012 06:09:51 PM
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I think it is EG and Nyn
- 03/05/2012 06:24:13 PM
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Pretty sure it's Mo and Nyn
- 03/05/2012 06:40:49 PM
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Yeah...
- 03/05/2012 07:55:32 PM
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Egwene is a distinct possibility...
- 03/05/2012 11:37:48 PM
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She is
- 04/05/2012 12:15:21 AM
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I don't know...
- 04/05/2012 12:25:53 AM
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Re: I don't know...
- 04/05/2012 02:47:02 AM
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I'm not disagreeing with most of that...
- 08/05/2012 02:58:53 AM
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"You expect me to wise up?" "No, Egwene, I expect you to DIE!"
- 11/05/2012 01:36:09 AM
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- 11/05/2012 01:36:09 AM
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What books have you been reading?
- 11/05/2012 01:57:31 AM
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Egwene made many things "clear;" I dug up all the ToM quotes for a post near this time last year
- 11/05/2012 01:12:05 PM
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The other quotes you requested, as promised.
- 13/05/2012 03:29:41 AM
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You misinterpreting quotes is hardly worth requoting...
- 13/05/2012 11:36:21 AM
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You misinterpreting quotes is hardly worth requoting...
- 13/05/2012 11:36:21 AM
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Agreed
- 13/05/2012 03:39:12 PM
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Exactly...
- 13/05/2012 05:53:17 PM
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Never said she was evil, just wrong. Horribly and tragically wrong.
- 14/05/2012 02:34:27 AM
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Principle protagonists can still experience epic falls.
- 14/05/2012 02:21:42 AM
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For the most part, very little interpretation was required.
- 14/05/2012 01:58:26 AM
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- 14/05/2012 03:51:31 AM
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Re: I think it is EG and Nyn
- 03/05/2012 07:38:36 PM
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I could be wrong, but I believe Rand used Calandor as a sword in the Stone.
- 03/05/2012 08:06:45 PM
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I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too
- 03/05/2012 09:05:58 PM
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Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too
- 03/05/2012 11:28:42 PM
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Idea
- 04/05/2012 10:11:05 AM
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Re: Idea
- 04/05/2012 12:09:17 PM
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This would explain the hidden hand
- 04/05/2012 08:54:00 PM
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Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too
- 04/05/2012 02:49:51 PM
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Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too
- 04/05/2012 07:42:12 PM
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Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too
- 07/05/2012 08:02:26 PM
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I actually found the champion/politician split between parallels very convincing.
- 11/05/2012 01:35:34 PM
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- 11/05/2012 04:06:50 PM
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Egwenes problem is her knack for seeing the error of her ways without ever LEARNING it.
- 13/05/2012 04:57:27 AM
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The Seanchan assassin...
- 13/05/2012 11:47:53 AM
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You do realize she drew her own (false but firm) conclusions based on a dearth of data. Again.
- 14/05/2012 02:08:26 AM
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Re: You do realize she drew her own (false but firm) conclusions based on a dearth of data. Again.
- 14/05/2012 04:08:11 AM
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Re: You do realize she drew her own (false but firm) conclusions based on a dearth of data. Again.
- 21/05/2012 01:59:15 AM
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looks a little 'naughty pirate novel' but is pretty fricken awesome!
*NM*
- 03/05/2012 06:50:42 PM
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*NM*
- 03/05/2012 06:50:42 PM
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- 03/05/2012 07:25:37 PM
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I does not look like Nynaeve and Moiraine
- 03/05/2012 11:39:01 PM
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Nynaeve has cut her braid and has her hair shoulder length in TOM....
- 03/05/2012 11:44:50 PM
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- 03/05/2012 11:51:02 PM
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nynaeve with no braid?.... are we sure its not egwene? or did no one tell him the hairstyles? *NM*
- 08/05/2012 06:48:49 PM
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Nyn cut her braid off. *NM*
- 08/05/2012 06:55:02 PM
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I thought it was burned off during her test for Aes Sedaihood. *NM*
- 08/05/2012 07:25:51 PM
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Right, my mistake. Then she cut her hair to make it straight again. *NM*
- 08/05/2012 08:54:33 PM
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Regarding the identities of the women on the back:
- 09/05/2012 08:52:47 PM
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What the hell is on the ground close to the bottom edge of the picture?
*NM*
- 10/05/2012 05:55:07 AM
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*NM*
- 10/05/2012 05:55:07 AM
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It's Michael Whelan's signature. I looked it up and found it in a different book cover *NM*
- 11/05/2012 07:05:22 AM
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That looks pretty cool, better than most of the other WoT covers
- 26/06/2012 07:37:29 AM
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