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I'm not disagreeing with most of that... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 08/05/2012 02:58:53 AM
You're completely right that Nynaeve parallels Rand too. Implicit in my statement that it made sense for Egwene to be there due to her parallels to Rand was the understanding that Nynaeve completed those parallels and the unity of Egwene and Nynaeve balanced out the whole of Rand. Which is why it made sense to me that the three of them would be there at the very end (if this is the very end).

But I also think you undercut the parallels between Egwene and Rand when you say she only parallels the political side of Rand. That is the strongest part, but they also are very similar in personality. As a person, Rand is more like Egwene than Nynaeve, in his quieter stubbornness, his ability to focus. They also tent to think very similarly, in a way that is very different from Nynaeve's logical leaps.

And I think you're wrong when you say that Egwene doesn't have similarities to Rand's "champion" side. Take the "land being one with the Dragon". You see a similar tie between the Tower and Egwene. When she is beaten, cut up, and locked in a cell, the Tower is at its lowest ebb, with even Reds ready to turn on each other. When she finally becomes Amyrlin, she feels something becoming "right" in the world.

And they are both now tied strongly to the only two named sa'angreal remaining in the series. I don't think it is coincidental at all that Vora's wand became instrumental in gaining Egwene the Amyrlin Seat; You could even say that when she took it from deep in the stone (the stone basement of the Tower), she was seen and accepted as Amyrlin.

Then, there's the symbolic representation of the two. Rand is represented by the Dragon's Fang, Egwene by the white flame (even in Min's visions). Together, Rand and Egwene represent the united Aes Sedai symbol, the one under which Rand will conquer. That surely alludes to their impending political unity to face the LB together, but I'm not at all certain this unity won't also be required at the final face-off at Shayol Ghul.

As for Egwene and battles, you're right that her political role will prevent her from launching into the field... but only in the beginning. Remember that the characters are going to go through hell in aMoL. Very soon, I don't think anyone wil be able to sit on the sidelines. And I think Egwene's time learning damane weaves of destruction, her own prodigious ability for innovation, her choice of the Green Ajah, her parallel to Rashima Kerenmosa as the woman who succeeds the Red Amyrlin who betrays the greatest force against the Shadow, and her recent tie to Vora's sa'angreal will all come together. I really don't have any doubts that Egwene will be forced to be a Soldier Amyrlin. It goes against the deepest kernel of her personality to sit back and let other's do what she herself can do better. She'll fight, only she'll take more precautions, and be better prepared for the worst. That's what the Senachan attack and the battle with Mesaana were all about... teaching her to balance between her politcal role, and her desire to fight directly. I don't think she's giving up either role anytime soon.
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The cover for A Memory of Light is revealed. - 03/05/2012 03:52:14 PM 5117 Views
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*NM* - 05/05/2012 09:04:15 PM 1985 Views
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Its the sword thats not a sword (its a night light!) - 04/05/2012 04:47:27 PM 2549 Views
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She is - 04/05/2012 12:15:21 AM 2799 Views
I don't know... - 04/05/2012 12:25:53 AM 2518 Views
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I'm not disagreeing with most of that... - 08/05/2012 02:58:53 AM 2406 Views
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What books have you been reading? - 11/05/2012 01:57:31 AM 2660 Views
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The other quotes you requested, as promised. - 13/05/2012 03:29:41 AM 2718 Views
You misinterpreting quotes is hardly worth requoting... - 13/05/2012 11:36:21 AM 2417 Views
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Then she wouldn't be a "protagonist" - 14/05/2012 04:38:34 AM 2461 Views
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Re: Principle protagonists can still experience epic falls. - 14/05/2012 08:32:50 AM 2585 Views
Re: Principle protagonists can still experience epic falls. - 21/05/2012 03:28:48 AM 2401 Views
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Re: For the most part, very little interpretation was required. - 21/05/2012 06:21:48 AM 2552 Views
Look at their foreheads - 16/05/2012 08:38:51 AM 2645 Views
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Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too - 03/05/2012 11:28:42 PM 2596 Views
Idea - 04/05/2012 10:11:05 AM 2581 Views
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Or.... - 04/05/2012 12:19:16 PM 2457 Views
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Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too - 04/05/2012 02:49:51 PM 1662 Views
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Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too - 07/05/2012 08:02:26 PM 2484 Views
Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too - 07/05/2012 09:32:45 PM 2725 Views
Thanks! *NM* - 13/05/2012 10:56:06 AM 2447 Views
Re: The cover for A Memory of Light is revealed. - 03/05/2012 07:25:37 PM 2451 Views
Re: The cover for A Memory of Light is revealed. - 03/05/2012 07:36:09 PM 2590 Views
It's his left hand Rand lost *NM* - 03/05/2012 08:00:01 PM 2006 Views
Thanks for the imput! *NM* - 03/05/2012 08:24:59 PM 2377 Views
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Nyn cut her braid off. *NM* - 08/05/2012 06:55:02 PM 2170 Views
I thought it was burned off during her test for Aes Sedaihood. *NM* - 08/05/2012 07:25:51 PM 1032 Views
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you can see a second weapon in Rand's belt too - 13/05/2012 08:51:34 PM 1457 Views
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