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Then she wouldn't be a "protagonist" fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 14/05/2012 04:38:34 AM
She would be a main character, but not a protagonist, if her story involved a massive fall into evil.

As for our supposed knowledge that Rand MUST break the Seals... I'm confused. What makes you think this? The only reason Rand thinks this way is because of Herid Fel's note, and his books, which were conveniently left behind after the Shadow went through an elaborate assassination to silence him. Both those sources are of doubtful provenance. In person, we have this:

"Is there any reason you can think of to break the seals?"
Herid's eyebrows shot up. "Break the seals? Break the seals? Why would anyone but a madman want to do that? Can they even be broken? I seem to remember reading somewhere they can't, but I don't recall now that it said why. What made you think of a thing like that?"
"I don't know," Rand sighed. In the back of his head Lews Therin was chanting. Break the seals. Break the seals, and end it. Let me die forever.


I'm not saying any of this proves Rand is wrong. But the timing of Egwene's Dream about the Seals, added to the Pattern allowing no one but her to speak to Rand in the Hall (while the same effect was certainly not true outside, before he came in), certainly points to something at play here. Likely, they both have parts of the puzzle. The Seals do need to be broken, but only just before they can Seal the DO back again, not before they even have a plan. Likely, that is precisely what Egwene's position ends up being once she can work out the meaning of her Dream in the context of what arguments Rand offers towards the breaking of the Seals.
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*NM* - 05/05/2012 09:04:15 PM 2064 Views
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Its the sword thats not a sword (its a night light!) - 04/05/2012 04:47:27 PM 2689 Views
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Me, too! - 12/05/2012 01:18:06 AM 2782 Views
Well... - 03/05/2012 06:09:51 PM 3084 Views
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She is - 04/05/2012 12:15:21 AM 2957 Views
I don't know... - 04/05/2012 12:25:53 AM 2682 Views
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What books have you been reading? - 11/05/2012 01:57:31 AM 2868 Views
I agree - 11/05/2012 02:51:38 PM 2948 Views
The other quotes you requested, as promised. - 13/05/2012 03:29:41 AM 2862 Views
You misinterpreting quotes is hardly worth requoting... - 13/05/2012 11:36:21 AM 2579 Views
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Exactly... - 13/05/2012 05:53:17 PM 2620 Views
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Principle protagonists can still experience epic falls. - 14/05/2012 02:21:42 AM 2710 Views
Then she wouldn't be a "protagonist" - 14/05/2012 04:38:34 AM 2594 Views
Again, I never said she is or will become evil. - 21/05/2012 03:03:32 AM 2775 Views
Re: Principle protagonists can still experience epic falls. - 14/05/2012 08:32:50 AM 2774 Views
Re: Principle protagonists can still experience epic falls. - 21/05/2012 03:28:48 AM 2582 Views
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Look at their foreheads - 16/05/2012 08:38:51 AM 2828 Views
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Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too - 07/05/2012 09:32:45 PM 2951 Views
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Re: The cover for A Memory of Light is revealed. - 03/05/2012 07:25:37 PM 2592 Views
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It's his left hand Rand lost *NM* - 03/05/2012 08:00:01 PM 2088 Views
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Nyn cut her braid off. *NM* - 08/05/2012 06:55:02 PM 2242 Views
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you can see a second weapon in Rand's belt too - 13/05/2012 08:51:34 PM 1622 Views
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