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Re: Egwene under compulsion Sidious Send a noteboard - 17/05/2012 08:27:50 AM
Aran'gar had opportunity, ability, and motive to use compulsion on Egwene. Can anyone think of a reason why Aran'gar would not have at least attempted to control Egwene through compulsion?

My theory is Aran'gar was not very talented in the use of compulsion and Egwene was strong willed. Directives that Egwene partially of wholly agreed with were the ones that were effective. Examples of this would be 'The Dragon Reborn is Dangerous, and you must protect the world from him', The White Tower must be reunited and you are the one most able to achieve this', and 'Do not trust men especially those in the military'. An example of one that would not have work would be declaring Elaida a dark friend.


Compulsion cannot be used on people easily. It provides a powerful, irresistible desire to do as you have been commanded, but overall it is more destructive than helpful to the person who wove it originally. The one exception would be someone who knows how to wield it skillfully and extremely subtely, and the only person I know with that extreme aptitude is Graendal. She can compel someone to the point that they can actually act normally to the casual eye.

Aran'gar seems like a relatively unskilled channeler and would not be able to pull off Compulsion on Egwene without causing significant destruction to her own plans. Masema is an example of a compelled person - he's feral in his desire to perform a command and it shows. We've had Egwene's PoV and there are no indications of Compulsion or her struggle to battle an abberant thought. When Moghedien used Compulsion on Nynaeve, we could see Nynaeve's internal struggle.
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Egwene under compulsion - 17/05/2012 05:40:31 AM 2005 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion - 17/05/2012 08:27:50 AM 1321 Views
To add to that - 17/05/2012 01:46:02 PM 1120 Views
Re: To add to that - 18/05/2012 06:04:07 AM 1133 Views
Re: To add to that - 18/05/2012 08:58:23 AM 1012 Views
Re: To add to that - 19/05/2012 04:00:49 AM 993 Views
Re: To add to that - 19/05/2012 11:04:14 AM 926 Views
Re: To add to that - 20/05/2012 05:38:31 AM 957 Views
I think you are misunderstanding what I meant - 18/05/2012 04:22:38 PM 998 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion - 18/05/2012 11:31:01 PM 1159 Views
Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" - 18/05/2012 11:47:44 PM 904 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" - 19/05/2012 12:31:10 AM 1166 Views
Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. - 19/05/2012 12:44:27 AM 878 Views
Re: Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. - 20/05/2012 07:01:23 AM 1014 Views
Fair point on Ishamael - 20/05/2012 03:36:32 PM 1052 Views
Re: Fair point on Ishamael - 21/05/2012 01:56:30 PM 1038 Views
You are over simplifying it I think - 21/05/2012 03:33:48 PM 1071 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" - 20/05/2012 06:54:40 AM 983 Views
Well, Elza did somehow... - 20/05/2012 11:04:56 AM 982 Views
It happened off screen - 20/05/2012 03:44:40 PM 971 Views
Re: It happened off screen - 21/05/2012 01:45:26 PM 942 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion - 19/05/2012 12:05:32 AM 1285 Views
And lets not forget that Egwene knows to counter compulsion... - 19/05/2012 01:13:39 AM 1022 Views
The Headaches - 19/05/2012 04:47:23 AM 1004 Views
Re: The Headaches - 19/05/2012 05:12:26 PM 1074 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion - 20/05/2012 06:37:23 AM 1004 Views
Like I said before... - 20/05/2012 07:30:58 PM 968 Views
Re: Like I said before... - 20/05/2012 08:57:17 PM 874 Views
Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things - 21/05/2012 03:13:12 AM 892 Views
Re: Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things - 21/05/2012 01:32:30 PM 929 Views
No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary - 21/05/2012 01:48:06 PM 960 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary - 21/05/2012 01:57:44 PM 952 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary - 21/05/2012 02:44:09 PM 1017 Views
Re: Like I said before... - 21/05/2012 01:21:34 PM 879 Views
Re: Like I said before... - 21/05/2012 06:00:35 PM 1027 Views
Seems logical to me, for whatever that is worth. - 21/05/2012 07:28:11 PM 887 Views

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