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Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary DomA Send a noteboard - 21/05/2012 02:44:09 PM
Only that Aran'gar is capable of it. Sanderson's version of Compulsion is quite different than what we had seen before, even Delana was capable enough to lay a compulsion on Ramshalan, and even then it happened so fast there was no way to know if the effects would have been seen.


How is Sandersons compulsion different? And while its true that Aran'gar died quickly, the brief view of Ramshalan did suggest that he was still mostly there, mentally.


Reread the scenes with compulsion, you'll see for yourself.

RJ's compulsion was primarly psychological manipulation, helped with a weave you could modulate and which created a intense feeling of receptivity in the victim. Beside finesse with the weave itself, you needed great knowledge of psychology for anything but near mind destroying compulsion. The level of compulsion Graendal used on Cyndane/Moghedien to immobilize them could easily have left them brain dead, she said so herself.

Brandon depicted it completely differently, strictly as a weave. Skill with compulsion became strictly OP-related.



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Egwene under compulsion Knightscape - 17/05/2012 05:40:31 AM 2050 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion Sidious - 17/05/2012 08:27:50 AM 1373 Views
To add to that darius_sedai - 17/05/2012 01:46:02 PM 1163 Views
Re: To add to that Knightscape - 18/05/2012 06:04:07 AM 1182 Views
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Re: To add to that Knightscape - 19/05/2012 04:00:49 AM 1039 Views
Re: To add to that Evil_Monkey - 19/05/2012 11:04:14 AM 992 Views
Re: To add to that Knightscape - 20/05/2012 05:38:31 AM 1000 Views
I think you are misunderstanding what I meant darius_sedai - 18/05/2012 04:22:38 PM 1044 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion Datakim - 18/05/2012 11:31:01 PM 1218 Views
Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" darius_sedai - 18/05/2012 11:47:44 PM 943 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" DomA - 19/05/2012 12:31:10 AM 1215 Views
Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. darius_sedai - 19/05/2012 12:44:27 AM 924 Views
Re: Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. Datakim - 20/05/2012 07:01:23 AM 1056 Views
Fair point on Ishamael darius_sedai - 20/05/2012 03:36:32 PM 1114 Views
Re: Fair point on Ishamael Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:56:30 PM 1115 Views
You are over simplifying it I think darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 03:33:48 PM 1128 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" Datakim - 20/05/2012 06:54:40 AM 1031 Views
Well, Elza did somehow... Voscaia Sedai - 20/05/2012 11:04:56 AM 1049 Views
It happened off screen darius_sedai - 20/05/2012 03:44:40 PM 1013 Views
Re: It happened off screen Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:45:26 PM 1020 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion DomA - 19/05/2012 12:05:32 AM 1348 Views
And lets not forget that Egwene knows to counter compulsion... fionwe1987 - 19/05/2012 01:13:39 AM 1073 Views
The Headaches Knightscape - 19/05/2012 04:47:23 AM 1053 Views
I always thought the headaches were just something Aran'gar did to get close to Egwene darius_sedai - 19/05/2012 04:10:32 PM 1019 Views
Re: The Headaches DomA - 19/05/2012 05:12:26 PM 1123 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion Datakim - 20/05/2012 06:37:23 AM 1058 Views
Like I said before... fionwe1987 - 20/05/2012 07:30:58 PM 1025 Views
Re: Like I said before... Knightscape - 20/05/2012 08:57:17 PM 954 Views
Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 03:13:12 AM 959 Views
Re: Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:32:30 PM 989 Views
No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 01:48:06 PM 1033 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:57:44 PM 1023 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary DomA - 21/05/2012 02:44:09 PM 1076 Views
Re: Like I said before... Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:21:34 PM 937 Views
Re: Like I said before... fionwe1987 - 21/05/2012 06:00:35 PM 1087 Views
Seems logical to me, for whatever that is worth. Joel - 21/05/2012 07:28:11 PM 969 Views
Why bother? She's Egwene, and served the Shadow's end of her own free will Cannoli - 21/05/2012 11:13:26 PM 1208 Views
Re: Why bother? She's Egwene, and served the Shadow's end of her own free will Sidious - 22/05/2012 08:22:46 AM 963 Views
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