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Re: To add to that Sidious Send a noteboard - 18/05/2012 08:58:23 AM
We also know thanks to Moghedien that those simple commands (I.e. don't trust men, the DR is scary etc...), must be something the person already basically believes or wants ... "LIVE Liandrin" essentially made it impossible for Liandrin to put herself in a situation where she could kill herself, even though she had effectively been Stilled. For Egwene to be effected by something like this, the seed of the belief would have had to have been there or she would have struggled with the command.


I think the seed(s) were there, for instance Egwene would have had a fear of male channelers, as any resident of the WOTverse would have had considering the breaking of the world.
Often considering men to be 'woolheaded' does not show a lot of trust in males of the world. There is also the situation she is in, namely being surrounded by scheming AS. These factors, I really believe, would make Egwene highly susceptible to a bit of subtle compulsion.


True, but anyone is susceptible to subtle compulsion, and as I said, I think only one of the Forsaken can pull that off.
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Egwene under compulsion Knightscape - 17/05/2012 05:40:31 AM 1967 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion Sidious - 17/05/2012 08:27:50 AM 1282 Views
To add to that darius_sedai - 17/05/2012 01:46:02 PM 1092 Views
Re: To add to that Knightscape - 18/05/2012 06:04:07 AM 1102 Views
Re: To add to that Sidious - 18/05/2012 08:58:23 AM 984 Views
Re: To add to that Knightscape - 19/05/2012 04:00:49 AM 961 Views
Re: To add to that Evil_Monkey - 19/05/2012 11:04:14 AM 894 Views
Re: To add to that Knightscape - 20/05/2012 05:38:31 AM 932 Views
I think you are misunderstanding what I meant darius_sedai - 18/05/2012 04:22:38 PM 974 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion Datakim - 18/05/2012 11:31:01 PM 1123 Views
Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" darius_sedai - 18/05/2012 11:47:44 PM 866 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" DomA - 19/05/2012 12:31:10 AM 1129 Views
Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. darius_sedai - 19/05/2012 12:44:27 AM 843 Views
Re: Yes I know. That's the point we are discussing. Datakim - 20/05/2012 07:01:23 AM 977 Views
Fair point on Ishamael darius_sedai - 20/05/2012 03:36:32 PM 1018 Views
Re: Fair point on Ishamael Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:56:30 PM 1006 Views
You are over simplifying it I think darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 03:33:48 PM 1033 Views
Re: Except we know Aran'gar was punished in some way for "losing control of her charge" Datakim - 20/05/2012 06:54:40 AM 957 Views
Well, Elza did somehow... Voscaia Sedai - 20/05/2012 11:04:56 AM 949 Views
It happened off screen darius_sedai - 20/05/2012 03:44:40 PM 933 Views
Re: It happened off screen Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:45:26 PM 903 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion DomA - 19/05/2012 12:05:32 AM 1253 Views
And lets not forget that Egwene knows to counter compulsion... fionwe1987 - 19/05/2012 01:13:39 AM 992 Views
The Headaches Knightscape - 19/05/2012 04:47:23 AM 978 Views
I always thought the headaches were just something Aran'gar did to get close to Egwene darius_sedai - 19/05/2012 04:10:32 PM 930 Views
Re: The Headaches DomA - 19/05/2012 05:12:26 PM 1041 Views
Re: Egwene under compulsion Datakim - 20/05/2012 06:37:23 AM 969 Views
Like I said before... fionwe1987 - 20/05/2012 07:30:58 PM 936 Views
Re: Like I said before... Knightscape - 20/05/2012 08:57:17 PM 835 Views
Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 03:13:12 AM 857 Views
Re: Finding a weave and recognizing the symptoms are different things Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:32:30 PM 901 Views
No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary darius_sedai - 21/05/2012 01:48:06 PM 926 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:57:44 PM 917 Views
Re: No argument that a subtle compulsion would be necessary DomA - 21/05/2012 02:44:09 PM 983 Views
Re: Like I said before... Datakim - 21/05/2012 01:21:34 PM 843 Views
Re: Like I said before... fionwe1987 - 21/05/2012 06:00:35 PM 992 Views
Seems logical to me, for whatever that is worth. Joel - 21/05/2012 07:28:11 PM 844 Views
Why bother? She's Egwene, and served the Shadow's end of her own free will Cannoli - 21/05/2012 11:13:26 PM 1140 Views
Re: Why bother? She's Egwene, and served the Shadow's end of her own free will Sidious - 22/05/2012 08:22:46 AM 878 Views
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