The provocation was intentional.
And both disgustingly easy, and appallingly necessary.
They both have a lot of experience at it, and apparently only Rand has gotten better at seing through the other's faints.Leaving the matter of Egwene aside, Rand did the right thing. It was hopeless to try to convince TV, and if he tried without the nations and his inner circle present, he would still have been arguing a month later. Much better to say for now the one thing related to that meeting that would at least unite the WT for sure, and motivate it to gather all the rulers (but Murandy's it appears - Elaida would be so proud).
At least so far Egwene intends to play it fair and speaks of convincing Rand. Others (Siuan, notably) might have chosen to deceive and it will be interesting to see if it goes that way, when the Aes Sedai realize Rand has no idea the last missing seal (a matter that until it's resolved would make breaking the other seals pointless), the one found by Nynaeve and Elayne, is already broken. No doubt some in the Hall etc. will want to play it that way - we have the missing seal and won't give it to you unless you agree to delay breaking the seals (they can even say that straight out), but with the post TGS Egwene I'm not sure what to expect (I'm leaning toward her finding the risk it backfires too great when Rand finds out, in a "Siuan is better hope Logain never
exposes her lies about the Reds" kind of way). If she chooses deception, I could see Elayne putting her convictions before Rand if Rand's arguments failed to convince her, but I highly doubt Nynaeve would agree to deceive Rand another time after what happened with Tam, maybe even at the price of her allegiance to the WT (I don't think it would come to that, though).
Nynaeve has certainly wisened up a lot, and her discretion is most commendable. The Light knows what Egwene would think of Rand had Nynaeve shared everything about what she went through with him recently.
This message last edited by DomA on 22/05/2012 at 01:06:42 AM
aMoL UK cover and Blurb (SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!)
- 21/05/2012 06:44:26 PM
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Thoughts...
- 21/05/2012 06:46:41 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
- 21/05/2012 08:45:41 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
- 21/05/2012 09:04:09 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
- 21/05/2012 11:08:50 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
- 22/05/2012 01:02:16 AM
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Re: Thoughts...
- 21/05/2012 09:35:29 PM
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Mat and the madness...
- 21/05/2012 10:30:09 PM
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Nynaeve's revelation may make the AS even more worried of Rand being mad
- 21/05/2012 10:58:37 PM
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Not Egwene though...
- 21/05/2012 11:02:41 PM
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Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness
- 21/05/2012 11:26:41 PM
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Re: Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness
- 22/05/2012 01:14:05 AM
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Re: Mat and the madness...
- 22/05/2012 02:29:31 AM
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Rand's dreams...
- 22/05/2012 02:42:36 AM
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She assumes he's mad just like most people assume a 19 year old boy is horney
- 22/05/2012 03:47:49 AM
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Everything Egwene's little pea-brain does not grasp has always been a sign of madness to her.
- 21/05/2012 11:05:44 PM
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Oh read the books will you?
- 21/05/2012 11:12:06 PM
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I'd rather not. For different reasons, it's kind of painful to read those by either author.
- 22/05/2012 04:46:20 AM
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What caught my eye there was "Trollocs seize Caemlyn."
- 22/05/2012 02:12:25 PM
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As much as I would love Moiraine to go with him to Ebou Dar
- 22/05/2012 07:20:40 PM
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At this stage, all roads lead to Rand.
- 22/05/2012 09:08:42 PM
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Re: At this stage, all roads lead to Rand.
- 23/05/2012 08:07:56 PM
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Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
- 23/05/2012 08:53:53 PM
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Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
- 23/05/2012 09:01:10 PM
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It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
- 23/05/2012 09:22:47 PM
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Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
- 24/05/2012 07:34:40 AM
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Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
- 25/05/2012 01:23:21 AM
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Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
- 24/05/2012 02:41:55 PM
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Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel...
- 24/05/2012 07:04:02 PM
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Re: Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel...
- 26/05/2012 09:42:20 PM
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Agreed...
- 26/05/2012 09:57:06 PM
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I think you are extrapolating some of his actions into more than he intends
- 26/05/2012 10:37:44 PM
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Re: Agreed...
- 27/05/2012 04:26:15 AM
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I think you're both wrong...
- 27/05/2012 08:41:50 AM
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I'm sure that is part of it, but I very much doubt he is thinking in terms of succession
- 27/05/2012 01:41:37 PM
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I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
- 28/05/2012 02:48:26 AM
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Re: I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
- 28/05/2012 04:54:46 PM
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That makes no sense
- 28/05/2012 05:50:16 PM
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Taringail was Laman's heir...
- 28/05/2012 07:20:07 PM
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You are answering the wrong question
- 29/05/2012 02:19:48 PM
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No. I've answered the exact question. You seem to have missed it.
- 29/05/2012 04:40:17 PM
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Yet not one of these things actually happened
- 29/05/2012 10:13:35 PM
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You're being absurd...
- 30/05/2012 01:04:36 AM
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Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
- 30/05/2012 05:48:48 AM
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- 30/05/2012 06:11:02 AM
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- 30/05/2012 06:11:02 AM
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Why then would Taringail, an ambitious man, renounce a Throne?
- 30/05/2012 06:22:08 AM
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We don't fully know...
- 30/05/2012 06:43:30 AM
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You just flipped your last statement
- 30/05/2012 06:55:36 AM
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You seem extremely confused...
- 30/05/2012 09:56:30 AM
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Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
- 30/05/2012 12:15:59 PM
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Re: Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
- 30/05/2012 03:34:06 PM
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I am not contesting the information we have
- 30/05/2012 04:48:08 PM
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You're impossible...
- 30/05/2012 10:02:59 PM
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Re: Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
- 30/05/2012 02:22:21 PM
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See this maps back to my original stance ... Thanks for pointing out that Fionwe invented that
- 30/05/2012 05:09:14 PM
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Good, now you have one last thing (a few inches long) to remember so everything becomes clear....
- 30/05/2012 10:50:33 PM
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Re: That makes no sense
- 29/05/2012 04:39:45 PM
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Only one other thing...
- 29/05/2012 04:53:29 PM
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No. If that was the case Taringail would have been King of Cairhien and not have married Morgase *NM*
- 30/05/2012 05:52:18 AM
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Bryne was Captain General not First Prince and Taringail was Prince Consort not FP
- 30/05/2012 06:07:48 AM
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Bryne was First Prince Regent.
- 30/05/2012 06:19:33 AM
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No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal
- 26/05/2012 10:33:20 PM
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Re: No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal
- 27/05/2012 03:23:12 AM
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Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal
- 27/05/2012 01:50:19 PM
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Re: Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal
- 27/05/2012 06:44:41 PM
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I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
- 28/05/2012 02:10:14 AM
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Re: I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
- 28/05/2012 03:33:18 PM
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I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one *NM*
- 28/05/2012 05:18:40 PM
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He might not literally kneel before the ter'angreal, but almost certainly must meet with Tuon soon.
- 25/05/2012 03:40:54 AM
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*NM*