Even if Taringail remained a Damodred, why on Earth would his Royal born children NOT be Mantears. If Galad was "merely attached to Mantear" he would not be a viable choice as First Prince of the Sword for a potential Sister produced from the union. There is no reason a Daughter Hier would forfeit her own childrens birthright to marry someone below her station... maybe a second son would be treated as such. By marrying Taringale she effectively removed him from Laman's line of succession ... as we know from later events ... So the Royal Daughter would have held the political advantage to the declining Damodred line.
Given that Andorans also do no preclude males from assuming the role of a High Seat it also makes no sense to willingly exclude Galad from succession to a powerful Andoran House ... Taringail was not High Seat of Damodred at Galad's birth (Laman was still alive) and with several other candidates (Laman's brothers) in line before him it seems like a very poor decision to exclude his male children from better inheritance in an Andoran Royal house, I assume there is no argument that any Daughter of Manter he may have produced would have been a Mantear. As you stated, Taringail would have been eliminated from the Cairhienin throne upon marrying a foreign Queen (Daughter Heir) which was well before the death of Laman, he was likely never a candidate for High Seat of Damodred for the same reason ... When Laman died another became High Seat despite Taringail's being alive and in a powerful position. And interestingly enough Galad was not made High Seat at that time either.
Perhaps Galad reverted to a Damodred due to Morgase's succession and subsequent marriage to Taringail in order to keep him from being a political tool in Andor. Even still his claim to the Sun Throne couldn't have been particularly strong since he is not a High Seat of any house. Elayne's is tenuous at best and only better because she has the support of the High Seat of Damodred thanks to Rand. Galad would be no better than a 3rd choice under normal circumstances (Toram and Caraline being top choices) and probably well down the line of succession given his odd situation. Perhaps if he was a politically driven man he could have made more of his Cairhienin heritage, but he has been pushed aside and is likely viewed by the Cairhienin as an Andoran despite the Damodred name.
Given that Andorans also do no preclude males from assuming the role of a High Seat it also makes no sense to willingly exclude Galad from succession to a powerful Andoran House ... Taringail was not High Seat of Damodred at Galad's birth (Laman was still alive) and with several other candidates (Laman's brothers) in line before him it seems like a very poor decision to exclude his male children from better inheritance in an Andoran Royal house, I assume there is no argument that any Daughter of Manter he may have produced would have been a Mantear. As you stated, Taringail would have been eliminated from the Cairhienin throne upon marrying a foreign Queen (Daughter Heir) which was well before the death of Laman, he was likely never a candidate for High Seat of Damodred for the same reason ... When Laman died another became High Seat despite Taringail's being alive and in a powerful position. And interestingly enough Galad was not made High Seat at that time either.
Perhaps Galad reverted to a Damodred due to Morgase's succession and subsequent marriage to Taringail in order to keep him from being a political tool in Andor. Even still his claim to the Sun Throne couldn't have been particularly strong since he is not a High Seat of any house. Elayne's is tenuous at best and only better because she has the support of the High Seat of Damodred thanks to Rand. Galad would be no better than a 3rd choice under normal circumstances (Toram and Caraline being top choices) and probably well down the line of succession given his odd situation. Perhaps if he was a politically driven man he could have made more of his Cairhienin heritage, but he has been pushed aside and is likely viewed by the Cairhienin as an Andoran despite the Damodred name.
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21/05/2012 06:44:26 PM
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Thoughts...
21/05/2012 06:46:41 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
21/05/2012 08:45:41 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
21/05/2012 09:04:09 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
21/05/2012 09:35:29 PM
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Mat and the madness...
21/05/2012 10:30:09 PM
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Nynaeve's revelation may make the AS even more worried of Rand being mad
21/05/2012 10:58:37 PM
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Not Egwene though...
21/05/2012 11:02:41 PM
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Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness
21/05/2012 11:26:41 PM
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Re: Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness
22/05/2012 01:14:05 AM
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Re: Mat and the madness...
22/05/2012 02:29:31 AM
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Rand's dreams...
22/05/2012 02:42:36 AM
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She assumes he's mad just like most people assume a 19 year old boy is horney
22/05/2012 03:47:49 AM
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Everything Egwene's little pea-brain does not grasp has always been a sign of madness to her.
21/05/2012 11:05:44 PM
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Oh read the books will you?
21/05/2012 11:12:06 PM
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I'd rather not. For different reasons, it's kind of painful to read those by either author.
22/05/2012 04:46:20 AM
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What caught my eye there was "Trollocs seize Caemlyn."
22/05/2012 02:12:25 PM
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As much as I would love Moiraine to go with him to Ebou Dar
22/05/2012 07:20:40 PM
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At this stage, all roads lead to Rand.
22/05/2012 09:08:42 PM
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Re: At this stage, all roads lead to Rand.
23/05/2012 08:07:56 PM
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Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
23/05/2012 08:53:53 PM
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Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
23/05/2012 09:01:10 PM
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It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
23/05/2012 09:22:47 PM
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Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
24/05/2012 07:34:40 AM
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Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
25/05/2012 01:23:21 AM
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Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
24/05/2012 02:41:55 PM
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Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel...
24/05/2012 07:04:02 PM
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Re: Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel...
26/05/2012 09:42:20 PM
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Agreed...
26/05/2012 09:57:06 PM
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I think you are extrapolating some of his actions into more than he intends
26/05/2012 10:37:44 PM
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Re: Agreed...
27/05/2012 04:26:15 AM
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I think you're both wrong...
27/05/2012 08:41:50 AM
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I'm sure that is part of it, but I very much doubt he is thinking in terms of succession
27/05/2012 01:41:37 PM
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I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
28/05/2012 02:48:26 AM
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Re: I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
28/05/2012 04:54:46 PM
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That makes no sense
28/05/2012 05:50:16 PM
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Taringail was Laman's heir...
28/05/2012 07:20:07 PM
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You are answering the wrong question
29/05/2012 02:19:48 PM
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No. I've answered the exact question. You seem to have missed it.
29/05/2012 04:40:17 PM
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Yet not one of these things actually happened
29/05/2012 10:13:35 PM
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You're being absurd...
30/05/2012 01:04:36 AM
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Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
30/05/2012 05:48:48 AM
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30/05/2012 06:11:02 AM
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Why then would Taringail, an ambitious man, renounce a Throne?
30/05/2012 06:22:08 AM
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We don't fully know...
30/05/2012 06:43:30 AM
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You just flipped your last statement
30/05/2012 06:55:36 AM
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You seem extremely confused...
30/05/2012 09:56:30 AM
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Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
30/05/2012 12:15:59 PM
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Re: Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
30/05/2012 03:34:06 PM
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I am not contesting the information we have
30/05/2012 04:48:08 PM
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You're impossible...
30/05/2012 10:02:59 PM
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Re: Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
30/05/2012 02:22:21 PM
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See this maps back to my original stance ... Thanks for pointing out that Fionwe invented that
30/05/2012 05:09:14 PM
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Good, now you have one last thing (a few inches long) to remember so everything becomes clear....
30/05/2012 10:50:33 PM
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Re: That makes no sense
29/05/2012 04:39:45 PM
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Only one other thing...
29/05/2012 04:53:29 PM
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No. If that was the case Taringail would have been King of Cairhien and not have married Morgase *NM*
30/05/2012 05:52:18 AM
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Bryne was Captain General not First Prince and Taringail was Prince Consort not FP
30/05/2012 06:07:48 AM
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Bryne was First Prince Regent.
30/05/2012 06:19:33 AM
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No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal
26/05/2012 10:33:20 PM
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Re: No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal
27/05/2012 03:23:12 AM
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Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal
27/05/2012 01:50:19 PM
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Re: Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal
27/05/2012 06:44:41 PM
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I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
28/05/2012 02:10:14 AM
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Re: I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
28/05/2012 03:33:18 PM
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I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one *NM*
28/05/2012 05:18:40 PM
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He might not literally kneel before the ter'angreal, but almost certainly must meet with Tuon soon.
25/05/2012 03:40:54 AM
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