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Re: Addressing problems with the Bell Curve Dreadlord Send a noteboard - 01/11/2012 06:23:07 PM
Here is my interpretation of the bell curve. The 21-level system is evenly distributed but the power levels on that curve are exponential.

The power of a channeller is given by l^1.21765144798273 (where l is the level on the 21-level system).* Here are a few channellers' powers given that equation (which I normalized between 0 and 1). This equation is based entirely on the following presumptions:

Egwene is exactly five times stronger that Daigan.
Egwene is level 15
Daigan is level 4

If you have better characters or corrections to these presumptions the comparison than let me know.

Lanfear 21: 1
Nynaeve 18: 0.8289
Egwene 15: 0.6638
Daigian 4: 0.1328
Morgase 1: 0.0245

*My math explained:
l^x = p (l = level, p = power)

5*4^x = 15^x (Daigan, a level 4, is 5 times weaker than Egwene, a level 15)
=log_4 5 / (log_4 15 - 1) (log base 4 here, I'm not sure what a good way of indicating that is)
=1.21765144798273

**All channellers levels were taken from http://13depository.blogspot.ca/search/label/Saidar%20strength . If you don't like the levels assigned, you can view the data it hde supplied link. If you want access to edit just give me your email address.
Saidar levels on google docs
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