Lanfear at 10% more than Moiraine would still be vastly more powerful than Moiraine due to training.
Of which you have zero evidence. Nynaeve is almost as useless as a channeler can be and she defeated Moghedien. Verin managed to stand against inverted/reversed weaves as the Cleansing. And don't forget Rand who has defeated numerous Forsaken, including Asmodean using almost no training. It seems that the difference between a hugely skilled channeler and moderately trained one isn't that big. Merean vs Moiraine is a good example of how training can influence a battle.
You cheapen the Forsaken by making their power all about their Strength. And you ignore the text which tells us over and over how worthless strength really is when compared to training. Even Moghedien states it and she is the only one of the Forsaken who even seems to notice Strength unless they are surprised.
Yeah strength is so useless that all of the Forsaken are the strongest in the Power in the series. It's so useless that Mazrim Taim is now a Forsaken. Why not Alviarin then?
I've never said it's the prime factor - obviously they are all immensely skilled. I just recognize it as a factor, but you don't. You continue to stubbornly insist that Forsaken level channelers aren't that strong when we have channelers like Rand who shield two Aes Sedai with almost zero effort. Even the Aes Sedai are shocked, but we are supposed to believe that together, those women are approaching him. They're leagues from his strength, and even THEY know it.
Cyndane v. Alivia is all I need from the books to see that strength is irrelevant in the grand scheme.
It's irrelevant when the channeler can't even use the Power to make a parasol with the Power. Egwene would have done much better against Cyndane because she knows more about the Power. But she still would have needed an angreal.
Egwene couldn't match any Forsaken when she makes the statement, but a few books later she says out right that she could face Mesaana
She's never said that. She offered herself up as bait.
Anyway, I'm not going to continue to re hash the same conversation we've been having for years without a significant body of new quotes. All we'll end up doing is pulling the same ones that have been around for 20 years 

The arguments are repetitive because you don't address any points raised, just fling about other random stuff, and you also don't concede anything.
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This message last edited by Sidious on 03/11/2012 at 04:53:12 PM
Addressing problems with the Bell Curve
- 31/10/2012 11:30:42 AM
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Who said RJ created a 100 point scale? I always assumed we did to make this easier to follow
- 31/10/2012 02:22:51 PM
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One more point here
- 31/10/2012 03:02:34 PM
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I've think I've finally done it. I've solved the entire Curve. Daigian is the key...
- 01/11/2012 09:20:57 AM
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Did some playing with your numbers to make this work better
- 01/11/2012 02:13:00 PM
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The Mean and SD are set by Daigian's position. Your options are therefore not possible...
- 02/11/2012 07:49:24 AM
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Yet you have many more SD between the Mean and Lanfear than you do Morgase and the Mean
- 02/11/2012 02:39:51 PM
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I absolutely agree. The lower side of the curve MUST be intersected by zero after 1 SD...
- 02/11/2012 03:03:52 PM
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I am not convinced Moiraine is the Mean. Merely 50% of Lanfear
- 02/11/2012 04:23:57 PM
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But on a Bell Curve the Mean IS 50% of Lanfear. You've just disproven your own contention.
- 02/11/2012 04:40:31 PM
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OMG no it is NOT!
- 02/11/2012 05:16:36 PM
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I agree with that. But please honestly look at the math I presented. It disproves the Bell Curve.
- 02/11/2012 05:24:41 PM
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It doesn't matter that you think the BC is disproved.
- 02/11/2012 06:07:19 PM
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Confusing post...
- 02/11/2012 06:30:40 PM
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If you choose to ignore the author go right ahead. I just think you are wrong
- 02/11/2012 09:05:14 PM
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Re: It doesn't matter that you think the BC is disproved.
- 02/11/2012 07:11:57 PM
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I think the number is about 10
- 03/11/2012 08:42:08 AM
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Nope
- 03/11/2012 04:14:45 PM
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Re: Nope
- 03/11/2012 04:39:07 PM
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Verin and Graendal each have angreal of unkown strength
- 03/11/2012 06:15:49 PM
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Re: Addressing problems with the Bell Curve
- 01/11/2012 06:23:07 PM
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Re: Addressing problems with the Bell Curve
- 01/11/2012 09:48:04 PM
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I'll have to disagree with much of this
- 03/11/2012 07:46:31 AM
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Why do you always think Strength is the point
- 03/11/2012 04:35:26 PM
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I don't - I merely appreciate it as a factor
- 03/11/2012 04:48:24 PM
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0 Evidence? Cyndane v. Alivia is plenty of evidence EDIT with exact quote
- 03/11/2012 06:17:39 PM
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One other thing you have forgotten about
- 03/11/2012 10:13:09 PM
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Your agenda blinds you to logic yet again...As I'll simply demonstrate with your example here...
- 03/11/2012 11:08:13 PM
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Nope, the only experience she has in reality is against Rand
- 03/11/2012 11:09:54 PM
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Nonsense.
- 03/11/2012 11:11:05 PM
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Believe as you will
- 03/11/2012 11:26:50 PM
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That's a classic.
- 04/11/2012 12:06:13 AM
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You misquote on a regular basis and have no grasp of the timeline in the series
- 04/11/2012 01:36:37 AM
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Hmm...
- 04/11/2012 07:08:04 AM
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stop getting all indignant ... I'm really not trying to be nasty to you
- 04/11/2012 04:20:06 PM
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Reply to your EDIT: I think YOU have a totally warped perspective, based on what you wish for.
- 03/11/2012 11:16:29 PM
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Funny that's exactly how I see your perspective
- 03/11/2012 11:25:52 PM
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I don't need to interpret the following in any way other than the obvious to get the picture...
- 04/11/2012 12:17:53 AM
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as usual you miss that there is a timeline and strength growth throughout the series *NM*
- 04/11/2012 01:47:41 AM
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