Your agenda blinds you to logic yet again...As I'll simply demonstrate with your example here...
Shannow Send a noteboard - 03/11/2012 11:08:13 PM
Males are stronger than women by a pretty good amount (RJ claimed there were "several levels of male strength above women" ) ... Egwene (at less than full potential) +R+L =(at least) Male Forsaken ... which would make those 3 stronger than Lanfear by a fair margin. Effectively Lanfear = Rand, but on a raw power scale she would not ... this is something Egwene would not yet realize having never really faced such a situation.
When Egwene thinks that she+Romanda+Lelaine might match 1 male Forsaken, she of course does not base this on the male's actual strength, but on his effective strength.
Because she cannot sense a male's actual strength. All she can judge it on is his effective strength, such as Rand demonstrated when she and Elayne were treated like "kittens by a mastiff" when trying to teach him in the Stone of Tear.
The point is, she doesn't mean that she and R+L can match the RAW strength of a male Forsaken, as she has no idea how to even measure that raw strength.
What she seeks to match is what he can effectively DO with that power. Meaning his effective strength. Thus, she is not comparing Her, Romanda and Lelaine to a strength level several levels above Lanfear.
Instead, the comparison is to Lanfear's effective strength level, which is the same as a strong Male Forsaken's effective strength level.
Simple really, once you apply logic instead of wishful thinking.
This message last edited by Shannow on 03/11/2012 at 11:09:24 PM
Addressing problems with the Bell Curve
- 31/10/2012 11:30:42 AM
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Who said RJ created a 100 point scale? I always assumed we did to make this easier to follow
- 31/10/2012 02:22:51 PM
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One more point here
- 31/10/2012 03:02:34 PM
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I've think I've finally done it. I've solved the entire Curve. Daigian is the key...
- 01/11/2012 09:20:57 AM
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Did some playing with your numbers to make this work better
- 01/11/2012 02:13:00 PM
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The Mean and SD are set by Daigian's position. Your options are therefore not possible...
- 02/11/2012 07:49:24 AM
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Yet you have many more SD between the Mean and Lanfear than you do Morgase and the Mean
- 02/11/2012 02:39:51 PM
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I absolutely agree. The lower side of the curve MUST be intersected by zero after 1 SD...
- 02/11/2012 03:03:52 PM
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I am not convinced Moiraine is the Mean. Merely 50% of Lanfear
- 02/11/2012 04:23:57 PM
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But on a Bell Curve the Mean IS 50% of Lanfear. You've just disproven your own contention.
- 02/11/2012 04:40:31 PM
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OMG no it is NOT!
- 02/11/2012 05:16:36 PM
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I agree with that. But please honestly look at the math I presented. It disproves the Bell Curve.
- 02/11/2012 05:24:41 PM
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It doesn't matter that you think the BC is disproved.
- 02/11/2012 06:07:19 PM
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Confusing post...
- 02/11/2012 06:30:40 PM
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If you choose to ignore the author go right ahead. I just think you are wrong
- 02/11/2012 09:05:14 PM
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Re: It doesn't matter that you think the BC is disproved.
- 02/11/2012 07:11:57 PM
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I think the number is about 10
- 03/11/2012 08:42:08 AM
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Nope
- 03/11/2012 04:14:45 PM
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Re: Nope
- 03/11/2012 04:39:07 PM
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Verin and Graendal each have angreal of unkown strength
- 03/11/2012 06:15:49 PM
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Re: Addressing problems with the Bell Curve
- 01/11/2012 06:23:07 PM
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Re: Addressing problems with the Bell Curve
- 01/11/2012 09:48:04 PM
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I'll have to disagree with much of this
- 03/11/2012 07:46:31 AM
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Why do you always think Strength is the point
- 03/11/2012 04:35:26 PM
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I don't - I merely appreciate it as a factor
- 03/11/2012 04:48:24 PM
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0 Evidence? Cyndane v. Alivia is plenty of evidence EDIT with exact quote
- 03/11/2012 06:17:39 PM
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One other thing you have forgotten about
- 03/11/2012 10:13:09 PM
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Your agenda blinds you to logic yet again...As I'll simply demonstrate with your example here...
- 03/11/2012 11:08:13 PM
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Nope, the only experience she has in reality is against Rand
- 03/11/2012 11:09:54 PM
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Nonsense.
- 03/11/2012 11:11:05 PM
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Believe as you will
- 03/11/2012 11:26:50 PM
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That's a classic.
- 04/11/2012 12:06:13 AM
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You misquote on a regular basis and have no grasp of the timeline in the series
- 04/11/2012 01:36:37 AM
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Hmm...
- 04/11/2012 07:08:04 AM
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stop getting all indignant ... I'm really not trying to be nasty to you
- 04/11/2012 04:20:06 PM
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Reply to your EDIT: I think YOU have a totally warped perspective, based on what you wish for.
- 03/11/2012 11:16:29 PM
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Funny that's exactly how I see your perspective
- 03/11/2012 11:25:52 PM
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I don't need to interpret the following in any way other than the obvious to get the picture...
- 04/11/2012 12:17:53 AM
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as usual you miss that there is a timeline and strength growth throughout the series *NM*
- 04/11/2012 01:47:41 AM
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