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That's essentially what I was saying Praziquantel Send a noteboard - 06/11/2012 03:35:45 PM
You think it's so great that it deserves some honor or dignity... well, Mr. Rigney, Jr. has shown time and again that it does not.

Remind me how many protagonists have died so far over the course of the 12 books?

Remind me how many enemies Mat has casually defeated all comers without breaking a sweat?

Gholam

The Bad Aiel leader

Various armies

The Finns

Hordes of Shadowspawn

If we add Demandred to that casually defeated list, well, the travesty of non-fear inspiring villains will be complete.

With that list, what makes you think that things will be different this time?
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[Mik's Warp] - Demandred is.....*click to find out* Mik - 05/11/2012 01:06:42 PM 3318 Views
There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... Tom - 05/11/2012 02:10:07 PM 1777 Views
Nah.. forget that DomA - 05/11/2012 08:29:53 PM 1634 Views
Re: Nah.. forget that RandAllThor - 05/11/2012 10:07:46 PM 1490 Views
Re: There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... Mik - 06/11/2012 12:40:54 PM 1664 Views
I'm not saying it's not a well-reasoned theory; it is. Tom - 06/11/2012 06:02:36 PM 1703 Views
I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 11:01:28 PM 1605 Views
Re: I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located Mik - 07/11/2012 09:42:00 AM 1852 Views
I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it darius_sedai - 07/11/2012 04:48:17 PM 1513 Views
Re: I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it DomA - 07/11/2012 08:36:34 PM 1758 Views
There has been a lot of waste in WOT..... Anonymous2000 - 06/11/2012 06:26:56 PM 1423 Views
LIKE! *NM* alanna aes sedai - 09/12/2012 02:37:49 PM 1351 Views
Whoops *NM* ßelals Girl - 06/11/2012 07:27:06 PM 857 Views
Plausible, albeit antilclimactic *NM* beetnemesis - 05/11/2012 06:32:38 PM 968 Views
Unless Mat is Demandred, at this point it will be anticlimactic. *NM* Tom - 06/11/2012 04:02:38 AM 861 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* Artsapat - 06/11/2012 07:53:30 PM 880 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* Artsapat - 06/11/2012 07:53:31 PM 877 Views
You've tried too hard... DomA - 05/11/2012 07:53:41 PM 3391 Views
Will be so disappointed if the Shadow's greatest (non-crazy) leader is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky Shannow - 05/11/2012 08:57:59 PM 1611 Views
I doubt Mat will kill him personally but TheCrownless - 05/11/2012 09:24:48 PM 1409 Views
I don't know darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 02:01:41 AM 1445 Views
My prediction of how it plays out... Shannow - 06/11/2012 07:12:15 AM 1479 Views
I don't think that's likely Sidious - 06/11/2012 06:04:55 PM 1502 Views
LOL ... it will be a saying in the next Age darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:36:04 PM 1386 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely DomA - 06/11/2012 11:21:21 PM 1463 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely Sidious - 07/11/2012 08:14:28 PM 1543 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely DomA - 07/11/2012 09:05:07 PM 1667 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely Sidious - 08/11/2012 05:52:16 PM 1459 Views
It sounds like we're at the same stage of vision of the AOL DomA - 08/11/2012 07:48:17 PM 1441 Views
Statistics refute some of that... Shannow - 09/11/2012 07:35:59 AM 1417 Views
We're not talking about the same things... DomA - 09/11/2012 11:31:12 PM 1396 Views
The real question is how much of that was caused by the Bore and the Collapse darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:50:20 PM 1445 Views
It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:43:26 PM 1568 Views
Re: It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. Shannow - 10/11/2012 07:34:34 AM 1486 Views
You seriously believe that? darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 04:17:09 PM 1473 Views
Mat has grown quiet a bit since those days darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 01:55:48 AM 1579 Views
You're putting the Evil on a pedestal. Praziquantel - 06/11/2012 03:12:38 AM 1317 Views
No, just desperately trying to raise the stakes a bit... Shannow - 06/11/2012 07:00:59 AM 1485 Views
That's essentially what I was saying Praziquantel - 06/11/2012 03:35:45 PM 1594 Views
hmmm Yunalesca - 06/11/2012 10:27:00 AM 1809 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky DomA - 06/11/2012 08:45:02 PM 1588 Views
Mat is essentially the man (men) who wrote the books Demandred studied darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:42:40 PM 1380 Views
Exactly... DomA - 06/11/2012 11:45:36 PM 1580 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky DomA - 06/11/2012 08:45:29 PM 1611 Views
I didn't try hard at all; Demandred found me... Mik - 06/11/2012 03:31:41 PM 1661 Views
My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1522 Views
Re: My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk DomA - 07/11/2012 12:07:02 AM 1672 Views
Well, it instantly gives the Shadow access to attacking every coastal city... Shannow - 07/11/2012 10:32:23 AM 1515 Views
Exactly! Mik - 07/11/2012 10:54:14 AM 2139 Views
If he married Nynaeve and Moiraine he'd have his wives at Rand's side in the Pit too.... DomA - 07/11/2012 03:28:38 PM 1550 Views
I find that approach unnecessarily convoluted. Just hit them with 1 billion Trollocs and crush them. Shannow - 08/11/2012 07:00:36 AM 1479 Views
Not likely he has that many... DomA - 08/11/2012 03:00:32 PM 1422 Views
May I ask some practical questions? Sidious - 08/11/2012 05:28:41 PM 1404 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? Praziquantel - 08/11/2012 10:35:38 PM 1477 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 12:09:15 AM 1429 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? Praziquantel - 10/11/2012 03:11:59 AM 1420 Views
LOL ... Seems more than a little far fetched *NM* darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 06:17:34 AM 822 Views
Well you asked for an explanation Praziquantel - 13/11/2012 10:23:41 PM 1349 Views
fair enough *NM* darius_sedai - 14/11/2012 01:31:52 AM 779 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? DomA - 10/11/2012 07:15:58 PM 1440 Views
Exactly! darius_sedai - 11/11/2012 07:38:46 AM 1444 Views
Good practical questions... Shannow - 09/11/2012 07:24:14 AM 1475 Views
He doesn't need the SF for that darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 03:00:34 PM 1251 Views
Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 02:57:16 PM 1293 Views
Re: Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about DomA - 09/11/2012 09:03:14 PM 1424 Views
I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:57:34 PM 1363 Views
Re: I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. DomA - 10/11/2012 10:08:04 PM 2967 Views
I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage darius_sedai - 11/11/2012 07:45:19 AM 1451 Views
Re: I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage DomA - 12/11/2012 02:57:08 PM 1491 Views
Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 04:11:50 PM 1528 Views
Re: Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing DomA - 12/11/2012 06:01:33 PM 1611 Views
Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 06:51:24 PM 1666 Views
Re: Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain DomA - 12/11/2012 09:30:57 PM 1440 Views
Not to belabor the point darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 10:56:39 PM 1332 Views
Re: Not to belabor the point DomA - 13/11/2012 12:46:21 AM 1366 Views
I think you are way off base on the economics darius_sedai - 13/11/2012 01:24:35 AM 1300 Views
Re: I think you are way off base on the economics DomA - 13/11/2012 03:48:40 PM 1410 Views
no reason to *NM* darius_sedai - 14/11/2012 01:35:55 AM 795 Views
I don't see the problem... Mik - 07/11/2012 10:52:49 AM 2268 Views
This is preposterous DomA - 07/11/2012 04:15:11 PM 1952 Views
Who? ßelals Girl - 06/11/2012 07:29:46 PM 1394 Views
Paah, he's clearly on the Isle of Madmen to the south. Stephen - 10/11/2012 03:28:26 AM 1816 Views
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