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Re: Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about DomA Send a noteboard - 09/11/2012 09:03:14 PM
Traveling until after they arrived in Caemlyn and Cairhien. The clearly had orders to secure the land before they left for these cities as both groups negotiated for the land. Later Zaida was able to get Traveling because of the BotW deal. Clearly the SF were looking for Trade enclaves inside of the two most powerful nations with no Seaports.


Zaida negotiated for a square mile of Andor with Elayne, it was part of the bargain she made with her to leave her Windfinders.

Harine also secured land, it had nothing to do with Zaida's plans.
They're bitter rivals, remember.





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[Mik's Warp] - Demandred is.....*click to find out* Mik - 05/11/2012 01:06:42 PM 2875 Views
There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... Tom - 05/11/2012 02:10:07 PM 1362 Views
Nah.. forget that DomA - 05/11/2012 08:29:53 PM 1237 Views
Re: Nah.. forget that RandAllThor - 05/11/2012 10:07:46 PM 1099 Views
Re: There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... Mik - 06/11/2012 12:40:54 PM 1276 Views
I'm not saying it's not a well-reasoned theory; it is. Tom - 06/11/2012 06:02:36 PM 1308 Views
I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 11:01:28 PM 1194 Views
Re: I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located Mik - 07/11/2012 09:42:00 AM 1468 Views
I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it darius_sedai - 07/11/2012 04:48:17 PM 1068 Views
Re: I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it DomA - 07/11/2012 08:36:34 PM 1330 Views
There has been a lot of waste in WOT..... Anonymous2000 - 06/11/2012 06:26:56 PM 1015 Views
LIKE! *NM* alanna aes sedai - 09/12/2012 02:37:49 PM 1081 Views
Whoops *NM* ßelals Girl - 06/11/2012 07:27:06 PM 592 Views
Plausible, albeit antilclimactic *NM* beetnemesis - 05/11/2012 06:32:38 PM 653 Views
Unless Mat is Demandred, at this point it will be anticlimactic. *NM* Tom - 06/11/2012 04:02:38 AM 609 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* Artsapat - 06/11/2012 07:53:30 PM 618 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* Artsapat - 06/11/2012 07:53:31 PM 616 Views
You've tried too hard... DomA - 05/11/2012 07:53:41 PM 2922 Views
Will be so disappointed if the Shadow's greatest (non-crazy) leader is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky Shannow - 05/11/2012 08:57:59 PM 1213 Views
I doubt Mat will kill him personally but TheCrownless - 05/11/2012 09:24:48 PM 987 Views
I don't know darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 02:01:41 AM 1008 Views
My prediction of how it plays out... Shannow - 06/11/2012 07:12:15 AM 1098 Views
I don't think that's likely Sidious - 06/11/2012 06:04:55 PM 1068 Views
LOL ... it will be a saying in the next Age darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:36:04 PM 999 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely DomA - 06/11/2012 11:21:21 PM 1007 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely Sidious - 07/11/2012 08:14:28 PM 1129 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely DomA - 07/11/2012 09:05:07 PM 1231 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely Sidious - 08/11/2012 05:52:16 PM 1039 Views
It sounds like we're at the same stage of vision of the AOL DomA - 08/11/2012 07:48:17 PM 999 Views
Statistics refute some of that... Shannow - 09/11/2012 07:35:59 AM 1012 Views
We're not talking about the same things... DomA - 09/11/2012 11:31:12 PM 990 Views
The real question is how much of that was caused by the Bore and the Collapse darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:50:20 PM 1042 Views
It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:43:26 PM 1190 Views
Re: It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. Shannow - 10/11/2012 07:34:34 AM 1096 Views
You seriously believe that? darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 04:17:09 PM 1023 Views
Mat has grown quiet a bit since those days darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 01:55:48 AM 1177 Views
You're putting the Evil on a pedestal. Praziquantel - 06/11/2012 03:12:38 AM 916 Views
No, just desperately trying to raise the stakes a bit... Shannow - 06/11/2012 07:00:59 AM 1074 Views
That's essentially what I was saying Praziquantel - 06/11/2012 03:35:45 PM 1193 Views
hmmm Yunalesca - 06/11/2012 10:27:00 AM 1307 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky DomA - 06/11/2012 08:45:02 PM 1157 Views
Mat is essentially the man (men) who wrote the books Demandred studied darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:42:40 PM 972 Views
Exactly... DomA - 06/11/2012 11:45:36 PM 1143 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky DomA - 06/11/2012 08:45:29 PM 1183 Views
I didn't try hard at all; Demandred found me... Mik - 06/11/2012 03:31:41 PM 1178 Views
My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1124 Views
Re: My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk DomA - 07/11/2012 12:07:02 AM 1183 Views
Well, it instantly gives the Shadow access to attacking every coastal city... Shannow - 07/11/2012 10:32:23 AM 1059 Views
Exactly! Mik - 07/11/2012 10:54:14 AM 1602 Views
If he married Nynaeve and Moiraine he'd have his wives at Rand's side in the Pit too.... DomA - 07/11/2012 03:28:38 PM 1040 Views
I find that approach unnecessarily convoluted. Just hit them with 1 billion Trollocs and crush them. Shannow - 08/11/2012 07:00:36 AM 1033 Views
Not likely he has that many... DomA - 08/11/2012 03:00:32 PM 976 Views
May I ask some practical questions? Sidious - 08/11/2012 05:28:41 PM 967 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? Praziquantel - 08/11/2012 10:35:38 PM 1083 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 12:09:15 AM 1016 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? Praziquantel - 10/11/2012 03:11:59 AM 1003 Views
LOL ... Seems more than a little far fetched *NM* darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 06:17:34 AM 557 Views
Well you asked for an explanation Praziquantel - 13/11/2012 10:23:41 PM 924 Views
fair enough *NM* darius_sedai - 14/11/2012 01:31:52 AM 531 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? DomA - 10/11/2012 07:15:58 PM 1058 Views
Exactly! darius_sedai - 11/11/2012 07:38:46 AM 1050 Views
Good practical questions... Shannow - 09/11/2012 07:24:14 AM 1057 Views
He doesn't need the SF for that darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 03:00:34 PM 836 Views
Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 02:57:16 PM 890 Views
Re: Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about DomA - 09/11/2012 09:03:14 PM 1022 Views
I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:57:34 PM 978 Views
Re: I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. DomA - 10/11/2012 10:08:04 PM 2536 Views
I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage darius_sedai - 11/11/2012 07:45:19 AM 1042 Views
Re: I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage DomA - 12/11/2012 02:57:08 PM 1067 Views
Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 04:11:50 PM 1089 Views
Re: Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing DomA - 12/11/2012 06:01:33 PM 1185 Views
Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 06:51:24 PM 1205 Views
Re: Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain DomA - 12/11/2012 09:30:57 PM 1011 Views
Not to belabor the point darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 10:56:39 PM 965 Views
Re: Not to belabor the point DomA - 13/11/2012 12:46:21 AM 926 Views
I think you are way off base on the economics darius_sedai - 13/11/2012 01:24:35 AM 904 Views
Re: I think you are way off base on the economics DomA - 13/11/2012 03:48:40 PM 1009 Views
no reason to *NM* darius_sedai - 14/11/2012 01:35:55 AM 549 Views
I don't see the problem... Mik - 07/11/2012 10:52:49 AM 1753 Views
This is preposterous DomA - 07/11/2012 04:15:11 PM 1429 Views
Who? ßelals Girl - 06/11/2012 07:29:46 PM 957 Views
Paah, he's clearly on the Isle of Madmen to the south. Stephen - 10/11/2012 03:28:26 AM 1374 Views
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