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Re: Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about DomA Send a noteboard - 09/11/2012 09:03:14 PM
Traveling until after they arrived in Caemlyn and Cairhien. The clearly had orders to secure the land before they left for these cities as both groups negotiated for the land. Later Zaida was able to get Traveling because of the BotW deal. Clearly the SF were looking for Trade enclaves inside of the two most powerful nations with no Seaports.


Zaida negotiated for a square mile of Andor with Elayne, it was part of the bargain she made with her to leave her Windfinders.

Harine also secured land, it had nothing to do with Zaida's plans.
They're bitter rivals, remember.





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[Mik's Warp] - Demandred is.....*click to find out* Mik - 05/11/2012 01:06:42 PM 3239 Views
There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... Tom - 05/11/2012 02:10:07 PM 1699 Views
Nah.. forget that DomA - 05/11/2012 08:29:53 PM 1561 Views
Re: Nah.. forget that RandAllThor - 05/11/2012 10:07:46 PM 1423 Views
Re: There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... Mik - 06/11/2012 12:40:54 PM 1595 Views
I'm not saying it's not a well-reasoned theory; it is. Tom - 06/11/2012 06:02:36 PM 1625 Views
I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 11:01:28 PM 1536 Views
Re: I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located Mik - 07/11/2012 09:42:00 AM 1787 Views
I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it darius_sedai - 07/11/2012 04:48:17 PM 1435 Views
Re: I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it DomA - 07/11/2012 08:36:34 PM 1690 Views
There has been a lot of waste in WOT..... Anonymous2000 - 06/11/2012 06:26:56 PM 1361 Views
LIKE! *NM* alanna aes sedai - 09/12/2012 02:37:49 PM 1307 Views
Whoops *NM* ßelals Girl - 06/11/2012 07:27:06 PM 819 Views
Plausible, albeit antilclimactic *NM* beetnemesis - 05/11/2012 06:32:38 PM 881 Views
Unless Mat is Demandred, at this point it will be anticlimactic. *NM* Tom - 06/11/2012 04:02:38 AM 825 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* Artsapat - 06/11/2012 07:53:30 PM 840 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* Artsapat - 06/11/2012 07:53:31 PM 831 Views
You've tried too hard... DomA - 05/11/2012 07:53:41 PM 3320 Views
Will be so disappointed if the Shadow's greatest (non-crazy) leader is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky Shannow - 05/11/2012 08:57:59 PM 1536 Views
I doubt Mat will kill him personally but TheCrownless - 05/11/2012 09:24:48 PM 1325 Views
I don't know darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 02:01:41 AM 1352 Views
My prediction of how it plays out... Shannow - 06/11/2012 07:12:15 AM 1416 Views
I don't think that's likely Sidious - 06/11/2012 06:04:55 PM 1428 Views
LOL ... it will be a saying in the next Age darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:36:04 PM 1317 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely DomA - 06/11/2012 11:21:21 PM 1386 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely Sidious - 07/11/2012 08:14:28 PM 1466 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely DomA - 07/11/2012 09:05:07 PM 1600 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely Sidious - 08/11/2012 05:52:16 PM 1386 Views
It sounds like we're at the same stage of vision of the AOL DomA - 08/11/2012 07:48:17 PM 1370 Views
Statistics refute some of that... Shannow - 09/11/2012 07:35:59 AM 1346 Views
We're not talking about the same things... DomA - 09/11/2012 11:31:12 PM 1324 Views
The real question is how much of that was caused by the Bore and the Collapse darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:50:20 PM 1379 Views
It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:43:26 PM 1499 Views
Re: It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. Shannow - 10/11/2012 07:34:34 AM 1417 Views
You seriously believe that? darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 04:17:09 PM 1385 Views
Mat has grown quiet a bit since those days darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 01:55:48 AM 1509 Views
You're putting the Evil on a pedestal. Praziquantel - 06/11/2012 03:12:38 AM 1247 Views
No, just desperately trying to raise the stakes a bit... Shannow - 06/11/2012 07:00:59 AM 1417 Views
That's essentially what I was saying Praziquantel - 06/11/2012 03:35:45 PM 1519 Views
hmmm Yunalesca - 06/11/2012 10:27:00 AM 1740 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky DomA - 06/11/2012 08:45:02 PM 1513 Views
Mat is essentially the man (men) who wrote the books Demandred studied darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:42:40 PM 1311 Views
Exactly... DomA - 06/11/2012 11:45:36 PM 1509 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky DomA - 06/11/2012 08:45:29 PM 1540 Views
I didn't try hard at all; Demandred found me... Mik - 06/11/2012 03:31:41 PM 1582 Views
My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1453 Views
Re: My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk DomA - 07/11/2012 12:07:02 AM 1526 Views
Well, it instantly gives the Shadow access to attacking every coastal city... Shannow - 07/11/2012 10:32:23 AM 1417 Views
Exactly! Mik - 07/11/2012 10:54:14 AM 2061 Views
If he married Nynaeve and Moiraine he'd have his wives at Rand's side in the Pit too.... DomA - 07/11/2012 03:28:38 PM 1481 Views
I find that approach unnecessarily convoluted. Just hit them with 1 billion Trollocs and crush them. Shannow - 08/11/2012 07:00:36 AM 1402 Views
Not likely he has that many... DomA - 08/11/2012 03:00:32 PM 1348 Views
May I ask some practical questions? Sidious - 08/11/2012 05:28:41 PM 1324 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? Praziquantel - 08/11/2012 10:35:38 PM 1407 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 12:09:15 AM 1355 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? Praziquantel - 10/11/2012 03:11:59 AM 1349 Views
LOL ... Seems more than a little far fetched *NM* darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 06:17:34 AM 779 Views
Well you asked for an explanation Praziquantel - 13/11/2012 10:23:41 PM 1247 Views
fair enough *NM* darius_sedai - 14/11/2012 01:31:52 AM 740 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? DomA - 10/11/2012 07:15:58 PM 1372 Views
Exactly! darius_sedai - 11/11/2012 07:38:46 AM 1373 Views
Good practical questions... Shannow - 09/11/2012 07:24:14 AM 1401 Views
He doesn't need the SF for that darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 03:00:34 PM 1179 Views
Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 02:57:16 PM 1224 Views
Re: Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about DomA - 09/11/2012 09:03:14 PM 1355 Views
I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:57:34 PM 1298 Views
Re: I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. DomA - 10/11/2012 10:08:04 PM 2887 Views
I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage darius_sedai - 11/11/2012 07:45:19 AM 1380 Views
Re: I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage DomA - 12/11/2012 02:57:08 PM 1409 Views
Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 04:11:50 PM 1424 Views
Re: Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing DomA - 12/11/2012 06:01:33 PM 1541 Views
Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 06:51:24 PM 1590 Views
Re: Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain DomA - 12/11/2012 09:30:57 PM 1365 Views
Not to belabor the point darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 10:56:39 PM 1264 Views
Re: Not to belabor the point DomA - 13/11/2012 12:46:21 AM 1288 Views
I think you are way off base on the economics darius_sedai - 13/11/2012 01:24:35 AM 1231 Views
Re: I think you are way off base on the economics DomA - 13/11/2012 03:48:40 PM 1346 Views
no reason to *NM* darius_sedai - 14/11/2012 01:35:55 AM 757 Views
I don't see the problem... Mik - 07/11/2012 10:52:49 AM 2200 Views
This is preposterous DomA - 07/11/2012 04:15:11 PM 1819 Views
Who? ßelals Girl - 06/11/2012 07:29:46 PM 1320 Views
Paah, he's clearly on the Isle of Madmen to the south. Stephen - 10/11/2012 03:28:26 AM 1732 Views
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