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Re: You are correct ... Min told Aviendha! darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 30/11/2012 04:04:53 PM
And I doubt Elayne would make a mistake about this. She learned about masking the bond from Vandene, and its hardly likely Vandene would not have discussed this part of it too.


and it worked for Aviendha, but not Min ... no reason to believe an AS would know that a non-channeler on the "holder" side of the Bond would be unable to mask it.


Seems like the Warders are aware of masking the Bond as well ... here is the quote from Elyas

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Elyas shivered again, though. "Worse thing would be to run into Rina. I’d rather be caught in a forest fire with both legs broken."
"Rina’s your Aes Sedai? But how could you run into her? The bond lets you know where she is." That nudged something in Perrin’s memory, but whatever it was melted away at Elyas’ reply.
"A fair number can fuzz the bond, in a manner of speaking. Maybe they all can. You don’t know much more than she’s still alive, and I know that anyway, because I haven’t gone crazy." Elyas saw the question on his face and barked a laugh.
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No reason it can't be both Pevara asking Androl AND Androl being Farestrider's kid *NM* darius_sedai - 28/11/2012 02:11:58 AM 799 Views
The whole idea of "Farstrider's son" sounds silly, if you ask me DomA - 28/11/2012 03:23:11 AM 1605 Views
I think this is Egwene... fionwe1987 - 28/11/2012 06:38:02 AM 1188 Views
Re: I think this is Egwene... DomA - 28/11/2012 03:54:09 PM 1979 Views
well isn't wild speculation part of the reason for a discussion forum? darius_sedai - 28/11/2012 04:00:35 PM 1087 Views
could be a mocking quote mazza3 - 28/11/2012 04:41:36 PM 1312 Views
Possibly to the Sea Folk *NM* MikeyMikeyMikey - 28/11/2012 04:45:30 PM 668 Views
Day 3 ... marriage is not so bad ... darius_sedai - 28/11/2012 05:18:05 PM 1484 Views
Sounds more like Mat than Thom to me. Narg - 28/11/2012 06:04:36 PM 1311 Views
Re: Sounds more like Mat than Thom to me. DomA - 28/11/2012 06:35:35 PM 1362 Views
I was thinking that this exchange could happen later in the book... Narg - 28/11/2012 08:21:05 PM 1317 Views
Re: I was thinking that this exchange could happen later in the book... DomA - 28/11/2012 09:33:46 PM 1344 Views
Re: Day 3 ... marriage is not so bad ... aven - 28/11/2012 06:31:56 PM 1230 Views
Re: Day 3 ... marriage is not so bad ... VTHokie - 28/11/2012 06:43:32 PM 1209 Views
that is a good observation and explains the tone of the sentence *NM* darius_sedai - 28/11/2012 07:43:06 PM 666 Views
I like it. *NM* Narg - 28/11/2012 08:24:58 PM 661 Views
That makes me feel better. Kaldric - 29/11/2012 02:59:15 PM 1171 Views
Berelain or an Aiel Heiko - 29/11/2012 06:01:48 AM 1172 Views
Day#3 This one sounds like something Loial would tell to Perrin DomA - 28/11/2012 07:34:09 PM 1374 Views
Day #4: "Pass his bond to me." --- Moraine to Alanna? *NM* HyogaRott - 29/11/2012 05:22:01 PM 724 Views
Re: Day #4: "Pass his bond to me." --- Moraine to Alanna? darius_sedai - 29/11/2012 05:55:22 PM 1154 Views
No, I think it is Egwene demanding it from Alanna, or Elayne... lilltempest - 29/11/2012 06:27:59 PM 1283 Views
Re: Day #4: "Pass his bond to me." --- Moraine to Alanna? Underwood - 29/11/2012 06:30:46 PM 1201 Views
I can't see a forsaken wanting the bond with all the downsides it would cary for them. HyogaRott - 29/11/2012 06:36:08 PM 1281 Views
Egwene to Alanna, IMO. DomA - 29/11/2012 07:00:01 PM 1507 Views
Highly doubtful... fionwe1987 - 29/11/2012 07:14:33 PM 1270 Views
Agreed, Egwene would see the disadvantages of holding his bond as outweighing the advantages darius_sedai - 29/11/2012 07:27:48 PM 1240 Views
Regarding Rand "tracking her actions", she can mask the bond to take care of that. *NM* lilltempest - 29/11/2012 07:45:03 PM 774 Views
That masking works both ways... *NM* fionwe1987 - 29/11/2012 07:49:41 PM 640 Views
Does it? Have we seen a Warder who can mask the bond from his owner? lilltempest - 29/11/2012 07:54:17 PM 1097 Views
Most warders aren't channelers... Min can't mask and she is the bonder in the situation and then Onarishma - 29/11/2012 08:05:53 PM 1333 Views
You're right, most aren't channelers... lilltempest - 29/11/2012 08:22:04 PM 1104 Views
That's because you see it as a leash... Onarishma - 03/12/2012 10:45:17 PM 1206 Views
well it can be a leash, but that's up to the bond holder darius_sedai - 03/12/2012 10:56:49 PM 1197 Views
where have we seen this emotional and physical stress that was related at all to the bond? *NM* Onarishma - 04/12/2012 12:08:23 AM 722 Views
Eylas comes to mind darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 04:31:17 AM 1018 Views
Even Cadsuane speaks of "taming" men who are bonded... lilltempest - 04/12/2012 06:31:25 AM 1205 Views
No argument from me on most of this darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 04:36:28 PM 1249 Views
Moiraine and Myrelle seem to have a similar view... fionwe1987 - 04/12/2012 12:10:05 AM 1349 Views
Mostly agreed darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 04:34:47 AM 1188 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 29/11/2012 08:42:25 PM 1169 Views
I think Aviendha (she told Min about it) is simply ignorant about the mechanics of masking *NM* darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 03:44:01 AM 686 Views
Elayne told Min... fionwe1987 - 30/11/2012 05:07:44 AM 1036 Views
You are correct ... Min told Aviendha! darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 03:59:27 PM 1104 Views
Re: You are correct ... Min told Aviendha! darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 04:04:53 PM 1198 Views
Nope.. fionwe1987 - 30/11/2012 08:56:59 PM 1009 Views
this is the scene I'm referring too ... but it DID work for Aviendha darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 10:19:21 PM 1162 Views
Thanks to both of you for digging this up... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 04:01:48 AM 1133 Views
Re: Thanks to both of you for digging this up... fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 04:37:54 AM 1100 Views
About Alanna, that isn't right... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 05:51:03 AM 1117 Views
It most certainly is... fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 03:52:45 PM 1156 Views
LOL! I love how you make up nonexistent scenes to support your case. lilltempest - 01/12/2012 11:12:46 PM 1157 Views
Says the woman who's come up with the most ridiculously fantastic scenarios... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2012 03:04:54 AM 1087 Views
Yet Min holds Rands Bond *NM* darius_sedai - 01/12/2012 05:48:39 AM 641 Views
And? What does that prove? lilltempest - 01/12/2012 05:53:43 AM 1233 Views
I think we do know a couple of things darius_sedai - 01/12/2012 03:32:09 PM 1046 Views
Ah, then yes, we're on the same side of this argument. lilltempest - 01/12/2012 11:08:23 PM 1079 Views
You still haven't addressed the main point... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2012 03:01:32 AM 1207 Views
Hmmm fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 04:22:26 AM 1119 Views
Min is not the Warder in the situation with Rand. She is the only non-Channeler who is a bond holde darius_sedai - 01/12/2012 05:52:08 AM 1150 Views
I'm pretty sure Elayas can't mask the bond either ... I'd have to go look, but I think there darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 03:41:51 AM 1129 Views
Something when he's talking to Perrin? TheCrownless - 30/11/2012 07:25:33 PM 1127 Views
found it darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 10:11:53 PM 1238 Views
Day #5 - What!?!?!?! HousealThor - 30/11/2012 05:46:44 PM 1225 Views
I really want that to be a sarcastic moment between Mat and Egwene *NM* darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 06:06:18 PM 527 Views
This sounds like Moiraine to me...possibly dry and sarcastic... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 04:05:21 AM 1094 Views
Who whispers sarcastically though? fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 04:29:30 AM 1086 Views
Many people do... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 05:47:06 AM 1214 Views
Not seeing it in the situation you wrote. Sorry. fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 03:57:32 PM 1195 Views
Of course you don't. In your world, Egwene will glare at Tuon and Tuon will drop to her knees.... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 11:13:53 PM 1330 Views
What's that got to do with anything? fionwe1987 - 02/12/2012 03:00:08 AM 1361 Views
Hmm yeah sounds more like Moiraine or possibly Nynaeve *NM* Praziquantel - 01/12/2012 07:03:42 AM 677 Views
Day 6 .... Galad ... MEH darius_sedai - 02/12/2012 04:31:29 PM 1479 Views
Day 7 ... "Nobody travels the Ways," Ituralde said, aghast. darius_sedai - 02/12/2012 05:39:56 PM 1316 Views
Not Demandred I think Sidious - 04/12/2012 07:16:27 AM 1237 Views
Demandred wouldn't be seen using the Ways himself! darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 09:04:06 PM 1187 Views
My thought was Ituralde finding out about Caemlyn TheCrownless - 05/12/2012 12:11:03 AM 1530 Views
Yup ... And I suspect we'll be seeing several more attacks like this darius_sedai - 05/12/2012 12:14:34 AM 1198 Views
Yup ... And I suspect we'll be seeing several more attacks like this darius_sedai - 05/12/2012 12:14:36 AM 1281 Views
Well not personally obviously Sidious - 05/12/2012 08:11:41 AM 1196 Views
The Light would be stupid to risk them now that they have Traveling darius_sedai - 05/12/2012 03:06:21 PM 1127 Views
Maybe they have to use them Sidious - 06/12/2012 06:40:49 AM 1269 Views
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