Elayne told Aviendha too, and it didn't work for Avi either. Min told Birgette, and it didn't work for her either. This situation doesn't prove much, since they were very close to Rand/Elayne, and those two were on a roll, preventing the people on the other end of those bonds from being able to focus enough.
Just miss-remembered the details ... was thinking Min explained it to Aviendha when she only reminded her of it ... whatever. Fact is the Channeler was able to make it work and the non-Channelers were not.
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A Lily In Winter
"The kerchief trick didn't work for you, either?" she said hoarsely.
Aviendha blinked, and crimson darkened her face. A moment later, she said, "That is better. Thank you. I. ... With him in my head, I forgot." She frowned. "It did not work for you?"
And it seems that Rina is the one who masked the bond to Elyas, which is just another case of the bondholder masking it. And the Min scene is interesting (I still think she could do it if she tried hard enough, much like ignoring the heat/cold...and we've seen channelers have trouble with even that trick) but it still doesn't prove that someone who has been bonded can mask the bond, channeler or not.
Wait...what about Toveine and Gabrelle? Wouldn't Toveine mask the bond to Logain if she could when Gabrelle was trying to screw his brains out in order to get him to let his guard down? The scene where Toveine is looking disgustedly at Gabrelle implies she was well aware of what was going on with her and Logain. Granted, the scene proves nothing one way or the other, but it seems the bonded Aes Sedai would try to mask their bonds to the men so the men won't be able to "read" them, yet we haven't seen it happen.
I just think the nature of the bond would prevent masking on the side of the one who was bonded. All of the power lies with the bondholder - down to being able to suck the very life out of the one they own - so it seems impossible that the one bonded could do something to protect themselves from the bond with the exception of holding the One Power, which is what we saw with Rand when Alanna tried to use the bond to compel him.
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- 27/11/2012 10:21:35 PM
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...time your father and you visited Shara?
- 27/11/2012 10:22:36 PM
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- 27/11/2012 11:14:00 PM
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- 27/11/2012 11:39:39 PM
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Re: ...time your father and you visited Shara?
- 28/11/2012 01:07:22 AM
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No reason it can't be both Pevara asking Androl AND Androl being Farestrider's kid *NM*
- 28/11/2012 02:11:58 AM
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The whole idea of "Farstrider's son" sounds silly, if you ask me
- 28/11/2012 03:23:11 AM
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well isn't wild speculation part of the reason for a discussion forum?
- 28/11/2012 04:00:35 PM
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Day 3 ... marriage is not so bad ...
- 28/11/2012 05:18:05 PM
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Sounds more like Mat than Thom to me.
- 28/11/2012 06:04:36 PM
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Re: Sounds more like Mat than Thom to me.
- 28/11/2012 06:35:35 PM
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I was thinking that this exchange could happen later in the book...
- 28/11/2012 08:21:05 PM
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Re: I was thinking that this exchange could happen later in the book...
- 28/11/2012 09:33:46 PM
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Re: Day 3 ... marriage is not so bad ...
- 28/11/2012 06:31:56 PM
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Re: Day 3 ... marriage is not so bad ...
- 28/11/2012 06:43:32 PM
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that is a good observation and explains the tone of the sentence *NM*
- 28/11/2012 07:43:06 PM
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Day #4: "Pass his bond to me." --- Moraine to Alanna? *NM*
- 29/11/2012 05:22:01 PM
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Re: Day #4: "Pass his bond to me." --- Moraine to Alanna?
- 29/11/2012 06:30:46 PM
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I can't see a forsaken wanting the bond with all the downsides it would cary for them.
- 29/11/2012 06:36:08 PM
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Egwene to Alanna, IMO.
- 29/11/2012 07:00:01 PM
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Highly doubtful...
- 29/11/2012 07:14:33 PM
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Agreed, Egwene would see the disadvantages of holding his bond as outweighing the advantages
- 29/11/2012 07:27:48 PM
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Regarding Rand "tracking her actions", she can mask the bond to take care of that. *NM*
- 29/11/2012 07:45:03 PM
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That masking works both ways... *NM*
- 29/11/2012 07:49:41 PM
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Does it? Have we seen a Warder who can mask the bond from his owner?
- 29/11/2012 07:54:17 PM
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Most warders aren't channelers... Min can't mask and she is the bonder in the situation and then
- 29/11/2012 08:05:53 PM
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You're right, most aren't channelers...
- 29/11/2012 08:22:04 PM
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That's because you see it as a leash...
- 03/12/2012 10:45:17 PM
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well it can be a leash, but that's up to the bond holder
- 03/12/2012 10:56:49 PM
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where have we seen this emotional and physical stress that was related at all to the bond? *NM*
- 04/12/2012 12:08:23 AM
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Eylas comes to mind
- 04/12/2012 04:31:17 AM
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Hmmm...
- 29/11/2012 08:42:25 PM
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I think Aviendha (she told Min about it) is simply ignorant about the mechanics of masking *NM*
- 30/11/2012 03:44:01 AM
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Elayne told Min...
- 30/11/2012 05:07:44 AM
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You are correct ... Min told Aviendha!
- 30/11/2012 03:59:27 PM
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Nope..
- 30/11/2012 08:56:59 PM
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this is the scene I'm referring too ... but it DID work for Aviendha
- 30/11/2012 10:19:21 PM
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Thanks to both of you for digging this up...
- 01/12/2012 04:01:48 AM
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Re: Thanks to both of you for digging this up...
- 01/12/2012 04:37:54 AM
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About Alanna, that isn't right...
- 01/12/2012 05:51:03 AM
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It most certainly is...
- 01/12/2012 03:52:45 PM
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LOL! I love how you make up nonexistent scenes to support your case.
- 01/12/2012 11:12:46 PM
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Says the woman who's come up with the most ridiculously fantastic scenarios...
- 02/12/2012 03:04:54 AM
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Yet Min holds Rands Bond *NM*
- 01/12/2012 05:48:39 AM
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And? What does that prove?
- 01/12/2012 05:53:43 AM
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I think we do know a couple of things
- 01/12/2012 03:32:09 PM
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Hmmm
- 01/12/2012 04:22:26 AM
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Min is not the Warder in the situation with Rand. She is the only non-Channeler who is a bond holde
- 01/12/2012 05:52:08 AM
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I'm pretty sure Elayas can't mask the bond either ... I'd have to go look, but I think there
- 30/11/2012 03:41:51 AM
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Day #5 - What!?!?!?!
- 30/11/2012 05:46:44 PM
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I really want that to be a sarcastic moment between Mat and Egwene *NM*
- 30/11/2012 06:06:18 PM
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This sounds like Moiraine to me...possibly dry and sarcastic...
- 01/12/2012 04:05:21 AM
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Who whispers sarcastically though?
- 01/12/2012 04:29:30 AM
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Many people do...
- 01/12/2012 05:47:06 AM
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Not seeing it in the situation you wrote. Sorry.
- 01/12/2012 03:57:32 PM
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Of course you don't. In your world, Egwene will glare at Tuon and Tuon will drop to her knees....
- 01/12/2012 11:13:53 PM
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Day 7 ... "Nobody travels the Ways," Ituralde said, aghast.
- 02/12/2012 05:39:56 PM
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Not Demandred I think
- 04/12/2012 07:16:27 AM
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Demandred wouldn't be seen using the Ways himself!
- 04/12/2012 09:04:06 PM
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My thought was Ituralde finding out about Caemlyn
- 05/12/2012 12:11:03 AM
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Yup ... And I suspect we'll be seeing several more attacks like this
- 05/12/2012 12:14:34 AM
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Yup ... And I suspect we'll be seeing several more attacks like this
- 05/12/2012 12:14:36 AM
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Well not personally obviously
- 05/12/2012 08:11:41 AM
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The Light would be stupid to risk them now that they have Traveling
- 05/12/2012 03:06:21 PM
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