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where have we seen this emotional and physical stress that was related at all to the bond? *NM* Onarishma Send a noteboard - 04/12/2012 12:08:23 AM
as we see from Siuan, not all AS consider the Bond a tool

TGS
The Tower Shakes

She rolled her eyes. Men! She had given him a deeply personal and emotional connection to another person—the likes of which even husbands and wives would never know—and all he could think about was how much better he might have become at swordplay!

clearly the Bond isn't the problem, it's the mentality of some of the shitty AS out there that would take advantage of it. More the fool those women since they will suffer if they were to inflict too much emotional or physical stress on their Warder.
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Tor's Daily Memories of Light Nargs - 27/11/2012 10:21:35 PM 3129 Views
It had been useful at Maradon... Nargs - 27/11/2012 10:22:00 PM 1102 Views
...time your father and you visited Shara? Nargs - 27/11/2012 10:22:36 PM 1395 Views
Re: ...time your father and you visited Shara? Nargs - 27/11/2012 11:14:00 PM 1317 Views
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Re: ...time your father and you visited Shara? scoundrelthetoy - 28/11/2012 01:07:22 AM 1063 Views
No reason it can't be both Pevara asking Androl AND Androl being Farestrider's kid *NM* darius_sedai - 28/11/2012 02:11:58 AM 710 Views
The whole idea of "Farstrider's son" sounds silly, if you ask me DomA - 28/11/2012 03:23:11 AM 1442 Views
I think this is Egwene... fionwe1987 - 28/11/2012 06:38:02 AM 1024 Views
Re: I think this is Egwene... DomA - 28/11/2012 03:54:09 PM 1804 Views
well isn't wild speculation part of the reason for a discussion forum? darius_sedai - 28/11/2012 04:00:35 PM 932 Views
could be a mocking quote mazza3 - 28/11/2012 04:41:36 PM 1117 Views
Possibly to the Sea Folk *NM* MikeyMikeyMikey - 28/11/2012 04:45:30 PM 586 Views
Day 3 ... marriage is not so bad ... darius_sedai - 28/11/2012 05:18:05 PM 1327 Views
Sounds more like Mat than Thom to me. Narg - 28/11/2012 06:04:36 PM 1141 Views
Re: Sounds more like Mat than Thom to me. DomA - 28/11/2012 06:35:35 PM 1186 Views
I was thinking that this exchange could happen later in the book... Narg - 28/11/2012 08:21:05 PM 1108 Views
Re: I was thinking that this exchange could happen later in the book... DomA - 28/11/2012 09:33:46 PM 1153 Views
Re: Day 3 ... marriage is not so bad ... aven - 28/11/2012 06:31:56 PM 1045 Views
Re: Day 3 ... marriage is not so bad ... VTHokie - 28/11/2012 06:43:32 PM 1023 Views
that is a good observation and explains the tone of the sentence *NM* darius_sedai - 28/11/2012 07:43:06 PM 560 Views
I like it. *NM* Narg - 28/11/2012 08:24:58 PM 550 Views
That makes me feel better. Kaldric - 29/11/2012 02:59:15 PM 965 Views
Berelain or an Aiel Heiko - 29/11/2012 06:01:48 AM 997 Views
Day#3 This one sounds like something Loial would tell to Perrin DomA - 28/11/2012 07:34:09 PM 1156 Views
Day #4: "Pass his bond to me." --- Moraine to Alanna? *NM* HyogaRott - 29/11/2012 05:22:01 PM 635 Views
Re: Day #4: "Pass his bond to me." --- Moraine to Alanna? darius_sedai - 29/11/2012 05:55:22 PM 978 Views
No, I think it is Egwene demanding it from Alanna, or Elayne... lilltempest - 29/11/2012 06:27:59 PM 1107 Views
Re: Day #4: "Pass his bond to me." --- Moraine to Alanna? Underwood - 29/11/2012 06:30:46 PM 1012 Views
I can't see a forsaken wanting the bond with all the downsides it would cary for them. HyogaRott - 29/11/2012 06:36:08 PM 1110 Views
Egwene to Alanna, IMO. DomA - 29/11/2012 07:00:01 PM 1327 Views
Highly doubtful... fionwe1987 - 29/11/2012 07:14:33 PM 1107 Views
Agreed, Egwene would see the disadvantages of holding his bond as outweighing the advantages darius_sedai - 29/11/2012 07:27:48 PM 1081 Views
Regarding Rand "tracking her actions", she can mask the bond to take care of that. *NM* lilltempest - 29/11/2012 07:45:03 PM 679 Views
That masking works both ways... *NM* fionwe1987 - 29/11/2012 07:49:41 PM 554 Views
Does it? Have we seen a Warder who can mask the bond from his owner? lilltempest - 29/11/2012 07:54:17 PM 916 Views
Most warders aren't channelers... Min can't mask and she is the bonder in the situation and then Onarishma - 29/11/2012 08:05:53 PM 1162 Views
You're right, most aren't channelers... lilltempest - 29/11/2012 08:22:04 PM 935 Views
That's because you see it as a leash... Onarishma - 03/12/2012 10:45:17 PM 1000 Views
well it can be a leash, but that's up to the bond holder darius_sedai - 03/12/2012 10:56:49 PM 1019 Views
where have we seen this emotional and physical stress that was related at all to the bond? *NM* Onarishma - 04/12/2012 12:08:23 AM 621 Views
Eylas comes to mind darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 04:31:17 AM 786 Views
Even Cadsuane speaks of "taming" men who are bonded... lilltempest - 04/12/2012 06:31:25 AM 1038 Views
No argument from me on most of this darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 04:36:28 PM 1094 Views
Moiraine and Myrelle seem to have a similar view... fionwe1987 - 04/12/2012 12:10:05 AM 1155 Views
Mostly agreed darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 04:34:47 AM 1014 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 29/11/2012 08:42:25 PM 1015 Views
I think Aviendha (she told Min about it) is simply ignorant about the mechanics of masking *NM* darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 03:44:01 AM 606 Views
Elayne told Min... fionwe1987 - 30/11/2012 05:07:44 AM 867 Views
You are correct ... Min told Aviendha! darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 03:59:27 PM 935 Views
Re: You are correct ... Min told Aviendha! darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 04:04:53 PM 1015 Views
Nope.. fionwe1987 - 30/11/2012 08:56:59 PM 860 Views
this is the scene I'm referring too ... but it DID work for Aviendha darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 10:19:21 PM 1001 Views
Thanks to both of you for digging this up... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 04:01:48 AM 967 Views
Re: Thanks to both of you for digging this up... fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 04:37:54 AM 937 Views
About Alanna, that isn't right... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 05:51:03 AM 906 Views
It most certainly is... fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 03:52:45 PM 990 Views
LOL! I love how you make up nonexistent scenes to support your case. lilltempest - 01/12/2012 11:12:46 PM 995 Views
Says the woman who's come up with the most ridiculously fantastic scenarios... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2012 03:04:54 AM 933 Views
Yet Min holds Rands Bond *NM* darius_sedai - 01/12/2012 05:48:39 AM 541 Views
And? What does that prove? lilltempest - 01/12/2012 05:53:43 AM 1010 Views
I think we do know a couple of things darius_sedai - 01/12/2012 03:32:09 PM 901 Views
Ah, then yes, we're on the same side of this argument. lilltempest - 01/12/2012 11:08:23 PM 942 Views
You still haven't addressed the main point... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2012 03:01:32 AM 1018 Views
Hmmm fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 04:22:26 AM 943 Views
Min is not the Warder in the situation with Rand. She is the only non-Channeler who is a bond holde darius_sedai - 01/12/2012 05:52:08 AM 994 Views
I'm pretty sure Elayas can't mask the bond either ... I'd have to go look, but I think there darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 03:41:51 AM 966 Views
Something when he's talking to Perrin? TheCrownless - 30/11/2012 07:25:33 PM 973 Views
found it darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 10:11:53 PM 1071 Views
Day #5 - What!?!?!?! HousealThor - 30/11/2012 05:46:44 PM 1057 Views
I really want that to be a sarcastic moment between Mat and Egwene *NM* darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 06:06:18 PM 458 Views
This sounds like Moiraine to me...possibly dry and sarcastic... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 04:05:21 AM 955 Views
Who whispers sarcastically though? fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 04:29:30 AM 917 Views
Many people do... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 05:47:06 AM 1027 Views
Not seeing it in the situation you wrote. Sorry. fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 03:57:32 PM 974 Views
Of course you don't. In your world, Egwene will glare at Tuon and Tuon will drop to her knees.... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 11:13:53 PM 1113 Views
What's that got to do with anything? fionwe1987 - 02/12/2012 03:00:08 AM 1164 Views
Hmm yeah sounds more like Moiraine or possibly Nynaeve *NM* Praziquantel - 01/12/2012 07:03:42 AM 600 Views
Day 6 .... Galad ... MEH darius_sedai - 02/12/2012 04:31:29 PM 1305 Views
Day 7 ... "Nobody travels the Ways," Ituralde said, aghast. darius_sedai - 02/12/2012 05:39:56 PM 1162 Views
Not Demandred I think Sidious - 04/12/2012 07:16:27 AM 1061 Views
Demandred wouldn't be seen using the Ways himself! darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 09:04:06 PM 1017 Views
My thought was Ituralde finding out about Caemlyn TheCrownless - 05/12/2012 12:11:03 AM 1338 Views
Yup ... And I suspect we'll be seeing several more attacks like this darius_sedai - 05/12/2012 12:14:34 AM 1036 Views
Yup ... And I suspect we'll be seeing several more attacks like this darius_sedai - 05/12/2012 12:14:36 AM 1091 Views
Well not personally obviously Sidious - 05/12/2012 08:11:41 AM 1025 Views
The Light would be stupid to risk them now that they have Traveling darius_sedai - 05/12/2012 03:06:21 PM 977 Views
Maybe they have to use them Sidious - 06/12/2012 06:40:49 AM 1089 Views
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