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Re: Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... Shannow Send a noteboard - 02/05/2014 09:59:45 PM

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You're making the rather absurd assumption that because weaker women are coming to the Tower, there must be a worldwide drop in strength. RJ made several statements which joined together make it beyond doubt that the culling of male channelers did not reduce strength in the population, only the total number of channelers. Which makes sense. We know strength in the Power is not genetic at all. Nor does it depend on having the spark. Why would indiscriminate killing of all male sparkers result in only stronger channelers being born less frequently?

Why would the Tower pick only weaker sisters? Their selection policy actually discriminates AGAINST weaker channelers.

They have a selection bias in favour of stronger channelers. What would prevent them from finding stronger channelers, but not prevent them from finding weaker ones?

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One Power strength: New information from RJ's notes fionwe1987 - 01/05/2014 11:39:32 PM 4490 Views
interesting. i wonder what else they'll dig up AgentApple - 01/05/2014 11:46:19 PM 1839 Views
College of Charleston library Terez - 02/05/2014 12:21:01 AM 1939 Views
Still... really cool, thanks! *NM* beetnemesis - 03/05/2014 06:35:05 PM 1012 Views
Mesaana Terez - 02/05/2014 12:26:19 AM 1916 Views
Re: Mesaana fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 12:37:52 AM 1979 Views
Danelle Terez - 02/05/2014 12:59:51 AM 1838 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 05:13:44 PM 1895 Views
Re: Mesaana darius_sedai - 26/05/2015 10:21:33 PM 1482 Views
Bringing it all together... Shannow - 02/05/2014 10:34:12 AM 1846 Views
Can't accept that, sorry... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 03:17:05 PM 1913 Views
How that CAN be interpreted however, is... Shannow - 02/05/2014 03:38:38 PM 1573 Views
Sorry, no... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 06:00:56 PM 1606 Views
Here are some key flaws, unfortunately... Shannow - 02/05/2014 07:56:53 PM 1474 Views
Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 09:50:23 PM 1527 Views
Re: Sorry, you're mistaking the Tower for the world... Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:59:45 PM 1524 Views
Who said the Tower picked weaker channelers? There's an interesting Egwene quote... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:13:08 PM 1569 Views
Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 11:15:30 PM 1437 Views
Re: Not totally accurate RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 03:23:08 PM 1609 Views
Re: Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 05/06/2015 08:22:13 PM 1449 Views
Re: Not totally accurate RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 09:16:51 PM 1758 Views
Re: Not totally accurate darius_sedai - 06/06/2015 03:48:34 PM 1421 Views
Re: How that CAN be interpreted however, is... DomA - 02/05/2014 09:39:06 PM 1745 Views
Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:57:37 PM 1624 Views
Ahh, the Rand with Egwene and Elayne scene... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:19:05 PM 1838 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. DomA - 02/05/2014 10:45:12 PM 1678 Views
About that... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:48:18 PM 1511 Views
Re: About that... DomA - 02/05/2014 11:12:01 PM 1664 Views
Re: About that... darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 03:07:22 AM 1414 Views
Re: Thanks DomA. The problem is simple.. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 03:16:50 PM 1667 Views
Thanks a ton for that Dom... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:24:02 PM 1547 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... DomA - 02/05/2014 11:09:16 PM 1463 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 11:36:55 PM 1620 Views
More on Aiel learners Terez - 03/05/2014 12:46:19 AM 1600 Views
Interesting. fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 02:32:23 AM 1511 Views
Re: Thanks a ton for that Dom... DomA - 03/05/2014 01:02:23 AM 1605 Views
Oh... fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 02:35:08 AM 1537 Views
Re: Oh... DomA - 03/05/2014 04:29:34 AM 2092 Views
Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? fionwe1987 - 07/05/2014 01:31:54 AM 1636 Views
Re: Can you clarify something here Dom/Terez? DomA - 07/05/2014 02:59:42 AM 1775 Views
Thanks Dom, I'm genuinely puzzled, though... Shannow - 07/05/2014 09:04:08 AM 1653 Views
Some things to consider... fionwe1987 - 07/05/2014 11:22:46 PM 1492 Views
Re: Some things to consider... darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 03:32:22 AM 1423 Views
Vegeta! What does the scouter say about his power level? mogi67 - 02/05/2014 04:38:59 PM 1512 Views
mmm, Vegeta *NM* Terez - 03/05/2014 08:32:36 AM 1007 Views
Sorilea and comments on the general structure of the notes Terez - 02/05/2014 09:20:26 PM 1825 Views
Is there any reference whatsoever about strength multiples? Shannow - 02/05/2014 09:34:50 PM 1675 Views
I will let you know if I see something like that... Terez - 02/05/2014 10:20:46 PM 1540 Views
Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle Shannow - 03/05/2014 11:04:31 PM 1640 Views
Re: Thanks. Because it will solve the entire riddle DomA - 04/05/2014 06:16:52 AM 1668 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 04/05/2014 08:14:19 AM 1696 Views
Re: Interesting... DomA - 05/05/2014 04:08:41 PM 1612 Views
LOL! fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 09:46:11 PM 1694 Views
More info on Sorilea Terez - 02/05/2014 10:04:50 PM 1821 Views
This is great! fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:23:31 PM 1749 Views
In the original he might have kissed her. Terez - 03/05/2014 12:49:53 AM 1594 Views
Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. MonCul - 05/05/2014 02:53:00 PM 1822 Views
Re: Having read some of his other books with sex, I've always been curious about this. DomA - 05/05/2014 04:25:18 PM 1578 Views
Easy answer Terez - 10/05/2014 02:49:53 PM 1553 Views
Can't argue with that! MonCul - 18/05/2014 12:31:01 AM 1687 Views
Therava/Galina Terez - 10/05/2014 02:58:09 PM 2136 Views
Came across one of the oldest strength lists I'd seen... fionwe1987 - 02/05/2014 10:46:29 PM 1618 Views
#10 seems weird. An Aes Sedai who never reached her full potential? beetnemesis - 03/05/2014 06:43:41 PM 1763 Views
Not weird. There is a good reason. Terez - 03/05/2014 09:30:40 PM 1751 Views
One question... fionwe1987 - 03/05/2014 09:44:35 PM 1700 Views
yes to both *NM* Terez - 03/05/2014 10:49:29 PM 1068 Views
Suian? MikeyMikeyMikey - 04/05/2014 04:50:32 PM 1662 Views
I see why you think that, but by the way Aes Sedai judge people on strength, I doubt it beetnemesis - 09/05/2014 03:48:21 PM 1416 Views
Does not meet the criteria I gave. *NM* Terez - 10/05/2014 05:23:27 AM 961 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. Dirty - 11/05/2014 05:49:31 AM 1588 Views
Not someone who was severed, burned out, or anything like that. *NM* Terez - 11/05/2014 01:27:28 PM 977 Views
Did she join the Aes Sedai especially early or late in life? beetnemesis - 11/05/2014 01:47:27 PM 1594 Views
no... Terez - 11/05/2014 04:27:07 PM 1466 Views
Wild guess... fionwe1987 - 11/05/2014 06:51:27 PM 1513 Views
One of Terez's criteria DomA - 11/05/2014 09:24:57 PM 1471 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 12/05/2014 08:51:33 AM 1472 Views
Re: Hmmm... DomA - 13/05/2014 06:14:12 PM 1655 Views
Even I don't know what Dom is talking about. *NM* Terez - 13/05/2014 06:24:23 PM 955 Views
Does it have anything to do with the Sharans? fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:35:45 PM 1532 Views
no Terez - 14/05/2014 07:52:27 AM 1564 Views
Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... Shannow - 13/05/2014 09:26:02 PM 1590 Views
Kiruna... fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:34:32 PM 1497 Views
Re: Wasn't there a Sister who was a Queen or sister to a King or something like that... DomA - 14/05/2014 03:16:24 AM 1615 Views
Re: Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 13/05/2014 10:38:05 PM 1428 Views
Re: Hmmm... DomA - 14/05/2014 04:09:42 AM 1504 Views
Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? fionwe1987 - 14/05/2014 04:37:20 AM 1585 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? Terez - 14/05/2014 07:55:20 AM 1547 Views
fionwe1987 - 14/05/2014 08:14:05 AM 1474 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? DomA - 15/05/2014 03:59:02 AM 1618 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? fionwe1987 - 16/05/2014 04:06:02 PM 1476 Views
Re: Oh. Is it about using as much if the OP as you can handle? DomA - 17/05/2014 03:01:25 AM 1587 Views
Perhaps Romanda? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/06/2015 04:22:31 PM 1620 Views
Re: Perhaps Romanda? darius_sedai - 05/06/2015 08:39:31 PM 1298 Views
Re: Wild guess... Terez - 12/05/2014 05:33:53 AM 1586 Views
Just tell them it is Satelle Anan, or one of those women who got burned out early in life... Shannow - 12/05/2014 11:59:06 AM 1651 Views
Have you even read my subject lines? :p *NM* Terez - 12/05/2014 01:05:47 PM 952 Views
Alternatively, someone who went to live in Far Madding... Shannow - 12/05/2014 12:08:07 PM 1556 Views
That was one of my guesses... fionwe1987 - 12/05/2014 04:57:56 PM 1353 Views
Redirect to my initial "Not weird" post. *NM* Terez - 12/05/2014 06:59:02 PM 959 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. Zalvera - 20/05/2014 02:23:13 AM 1488 Views
Lots of no *NM* Terez - 20/05/2014 02:30:25 AM 971 Views
You're killing me. Zalvera - 20/05/2014 02:55:21 AM 1486 Views
I won't just tell you :p But... Terez - 20/05/2014 10:31:27 AM 1579 Views
Wild speculation Zalvera - 20/05/2014 01:39:52 PM 1489 Views
Could it be Verin who always used her angreal? Shannow - 20/05/2014 02:07:30 PM 1479 Views
Hmmm Zalvera - 20/05/2014 03:37:57 PM 1490 Views
Well, I'm not saying she did it to appear weaker... Shannow - 20/05/2014 03:48:10 PM 1398 Views
The buffer Zalvera - 20/05/2014 04:10:58 PM 1511 Views
I doubt using an angreal means you don't progress in natural strength beetnemesis - 20/05/2014 06:02:00 PM 1673 Views
Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Terez - 20/05/2014 11:53:11 PM 1536 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Zalvera - 21/05/2014 01:55:15 AM 1473 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. DomA - 22/05/2014 02:33:30 AM 1545 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Terez - 22/05/2014 05:04:00 AM 1602 Views
So... fionwe1987 - 22/05/2014 05:12:48 AM 1449 Views
While I'm peeved that this issue gets more attention than the strength list, I like a mystery... Shannow - 22/05/2014 08:49:02 AM 1466 Views
Re: While I'm peeved that this issue gets more attention than the strength list, I like a mystery... Zalvera - 22/05/2014 12:03:02 PM 1352 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. Zalvera - 22/05/2014 11:55:38 AM 1452 Views
Re: Both potential and actual strength can be sensed. DomA - 24/05/2014 02:07:01 AM 1492 Views
I didn't say that Terez - 24/05/2014 11:24:30 PM 1538 Views
Re: I didn't say that DomA - 25/05/2014 02:32:46 PM 1520 Views
did she deliberately keep her growth slow? A small theory too darius_sedai - 17/05/2015 11:54:28 PM 1434 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 05:49:42 PM 1673 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. darius_sedai - 04/06/2015 06:05:28 PM 1382 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 06:23:28 PM 1631 Views
Re: Not weird. There is a good reason. darius_sedai - 04/06/2015 08:37:20 PM 1326 Views
I think this will be in the Encyclopedia, so... Terez - 10/06/2015 03:06:42 PM 1477 Views
you are such a tease *NM* darius_sedai - 10/06/2015 09:05:10 PM 794 Views
Why doesn't someone... Terez - 24/05/2014 11:25:51 PM 1672 Views
Favourite part about this post... Duke - 12/05/2014 07:12:51 AM 1692 Views
With regard to #10- does it involve the Oath Rod, in some way? beetnemesis - 15/05/2014 02:53:45 PM 1496 Views
no *NM* Terez - 15/05/2014 07:16:16 PM 942 Views
Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! beetnemesis - 17/05/2014 01:32:04 PM 1567 Views
Re: Oh, I know! It's the Sea Folk Aes Sedai! DomA - 17/05/2014 08:45:59 PM 1606 Views
An Aes Sedai who was sent away from the Tower? beetnemesis - 17/05/2014 10:01:44 PM 1605 Views
Again, no reason to think this Aes Sedai did not channel often. *NM* Terez - 18/05/2014 04:32:06 AM 975 Views
Did the Aes Sedai live in relative seclusion, did she have a Warder, and did that Warder die? *NM* beetnemesis - 20/05/2014 06:03:04 PM 1080 Views
Too specific Terez - 20/05/2014 11:51:25 PM 1548 Views
Re: Too specific Dirty - 21/05/2014 05:32:32 AM 1461 Views
You think THAT isn't specific? *NM* fionwe1987 - 22/05/2014 02:41:53 AM 981 Views
It's a fine mess that no one can work out Sidious - 09/06/2014 09:20:56 AM 1692 Views
Re: It's a fine mess that no one can work out RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/06/2015 08:48:20 PM 1710 Views
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