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Re: You people are the insane ones Cannoli Send a noteboard - 30/12/2015 11:25:09 AM

You started this by taking the thing off topic to focus on Egwene.



Well for one, Egwene did not have an army to defeat Mesaana. That entire battle between the Black Ajah and Aiel etc was not Egwene's deed. Egwene battled Mesaana in private where no one could help her and defeated her. So factually you distorted this entire scene. You asked where you did it, and you did it here.
Perrin helped her, and she defeated Mesaana by being more stupidly stubborn in grasping a wrong point. Perrin caused Mesaana to be pinned in an arena where Egwene had a natural advantage, through her (dishonestly obtained) teaching by superior Dreamwalkers, and her innate talents in T'A'R, while Mesaana had none of that, and would have simply fled, rather than get caught up in such a one-sided confrontation, if Perrin had not brought the Dreamspike. And then Egwene would have been back to square one.
Secondly, what kind of argument is 'someone would have killed Taim.' The same could be said for any evil person in the series... eventually someone good would have killed them. So it's basically not a worthy deed if you kill a great source of evil, because 'eventually someone will kill them.'
It's a pitched, set piece battle, as opposed to her confrontations with Mesaana or the damane in the Tower.
As usual you were very concise with the truth again as you mention that anyone could go after Taim with one of the most powerful sa'angreal in existence, but of course fail to mention that he was wielding Sakarnen too. I suspect this is the sort of distortion that Fionwe is referring to, or 'merely flinging the Power at each other' because world war two was 'just lots of bombs'.
And if one of those bombs had fallen on Hitler, we would not be praising the guy who happened to release it for defeating Hitler.
So good luck to that person who would have eventually killed him even though he was weaving balefire on a level not seen since the War of Power.

A person weaving balefire dies just as well as anyone. No matter how much balefire you are weaving, you have the same anatomical functions, and are no more or less protected than a non-channeler.


Cannoli
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless

“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
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Let's have a survey! Seven questions, give your opinions kHz1000 - 26/12/2015 08:46:07 PM 2574 Views
My answers gban007 - 27/12/2015 02:55:35 AM 1554 Views
Re: Let's have a survey! Seven questions, give your opinions darius_sedai - 27/12/2015 04:42:28 PM 1663 Views
Re: Let's have a survey! Seven questions, give your opinions kHz1000 - 27/12/2015 09:01:33 PM 1652 Views
Black Ajah darius_sedai - 28/12/2015 02:44:04 AM 1559 Views
Mine Sidious - 27/12/2015 10:39:08 PM 1689 Views
Re: Mine kHz1000 - 28/12/2015 12:57:23 AM 1625 Views
Re: Mine Sidious - 28/12/2015 09:51:54 AM 1418 Views
Re: Mine kHz1000 - 28/12/2015 02:02:33 PM 1441 Views
Re: Let's have a survey! Seven questions, give your opinions Cannoli - 28/12/2015 12:40:49 PM 1915 Views
Re: Let's have a survey! Seven questions, give your opinions kHz1000 - 28/12/2015 01:53:00 PM 1752 Views
Re: Let's have a survey! Seven questions, give your opinions Cannoli - 29/12/2015 11:35:09 AM 1517 Views
Re: Let's have a survey! Seven questions, give your opinions kHz1000 - 29/12/2015 05:12:46 PM 1524 Views
So about Egwene... Sidious - 28/12/2015 04:26:47 PM 1757 Views
Re: So about Egwene... Cannoli - 28/12/2015 10:52:29 PM 1622 Views
Why do you bother? *NM* darius_sedai - 29/12/2015 01:23:10 AM 894 Views
Seriously... fionwe1987 - 29/12/2015 01:30:34 AM 1528 Views
Sadly I have to agree Sidious - 29/12/2015 08:46:58 AM 1614 Views
You people are the insane ones Cannoli - 29/12/2015 11:21:24 AM 1604 Views
Re: You people are the insane ones Sidious - 29/12/2015 12:10:51 PM 1699 Views
Re: You people are the insane ones Cannoli - 30/12/2015 11:25:09 AM 1613 Views
Yet it's Mesaana who forces the head to head confrontation with Egwene darius_sedai - 30/12/2015 05:25:00 PM 1632 Views
I don't get the "circumstances being created" argument anyway... fionwe1987 - 31/12/2015 02:53:14 AM 1415 Views
Re: I don't get the "circumstances being created" argument anyway... Sidious - 31/12/2015 06:28:33 AM 1560 Views
Damn stupid WoT, never working out the way you think it should! Cannoli - 04/01/2016 01:38:45 AM 1585 Views
So you agree, Egwene eliminated on of the Forsaken in a direct conflict darius_sedai - 04/01/2016 03:28:35 AM 1420 Views
Yeah. I just don't see how it redounds to her credit, or is particularly impressive. Cannoli - 04/01/2016 07:17:20 AM 1656 Views
Re: Yeah. I just don't see how it redounds to her credit, or is particularly impressive. darius_sedai - 04/01/2016 03:59:18 PM 1616 Views
Re: Yeah. I just don't see how it redounds to her credit, or is particularly impressive. Sidious - 04/01/2016 04:19:00 PM 1573 Views
Well, to put things in context fionwe1987 - 04/01/2016 04:28:00 PM 1623 Views
Re: Well, to put things in context Sidious - 04/01/2016 07:05:27 PM 1897 Views
That's not the worst argument given how lame many of them were darius_sedai - 04/01/2016 06:37:44 PM 1774 Views
Uh oh Sidious - 04/01/2016 07:03:08 PM 2280 Views
*grabs Dewars* *NM* darius_sedai - 04/01/2016 08:24:05 PM 995 Views
Re: You people are the insane ones Sidious - 30/12/2015 06:22:02 PM 1752 Views
Apparently, Egwene shouldn't have killed the Sharans... fionwe1987 - 31/12/2015 02:56:08 AM 1649 Views
it's just an excuse to not give credit to a character he doesn't like darius_sedai - 31/12/2015 04:44:17 AM 1807 Views
Exactly. The double standard has always existed in Cannoli's rants. fionwe1987 - 31/12/2015 05:31:42 AM 1743 Views
Yes well I've only recently started to realize how distasteful it is Sidious - 31/12/2015 06:27:26 AM 1835 Views
Wow... the board was alive 5 years ago! fionwe1987 - 31/12/2015 08:34:03 AM 1689 Views
LOL ... Someday you'll come to realize how right we were!!! *NM* darius_sedai - 31/12/2015 05:23:18 PM 1006 Views
How is this a concession? Cannoli - 04/01/2016 08:05:38 AM 1865 Views
Re: How is this a concession? Sidious - 04/01/2016 10:49:20 AM 1876 Views
You can dislike Cannoli, you can claim his arguments are biased... TyrReborn - 31/12/2015 07:09:55 PM 1697 Views
Offended? No, I find it funny, in a needs medication way darius_sedai - 31/12/2015 07:50:28 PM 1579 Views
It is possible gban007 - 01/01/2016 05:59:51 AM 1707 Views
It's also possible that he created a bunch of sock puppet handles to pat himself on the back darius_sedai - 01/01/2016 06:53:27 AM 1733 Views
Re: It's also possible that he created a bunch of sock puppet handles to pat himself on the back Sidious - 01/01/2016 08:43:43 AM 1665 Views
She's. Not. A. Real. Person. Cannoli - 02/01/2016 01:49:37 AM 1673 Views
Re: She's. Not. A. Real. Person. Sidious - 02/01/2016 04:16:39 AM 1654 Views
Re: She's. Not. A. Real. Person. lilltempest - 08/01/2016 10:33:22 PM 1638 Views
Fair enough gban007 - 01/01/2016 09:31:47 AM 1422 Views
Where did I say someone who reads his posts are dumb or something? darius_sedai - 01/01/2016 05:15:30 PM 1545 Views
Not directly gban007 - 01/01/2016 09:09:05 PM 1493 Views
And yet I'm being told I'm the one acting offended darius_sedai - 02/01/2016 01:15:15 AM 1401 Views
See, this is the crap I'm talking about. TyrReborn - 01/01/2016 06:20:16 PM 1552 Views
Re: See, this is the crap I'm talking about. Sidious - 01/01/2016 07:25:38 PM 1684 Views
Okay, Mark, all kidding and stuff aside, you're being the asshole, here. Cannoli - 02/01/2016 03:49:08 AM 1645 Views
Okay... Sidious - 02/01/2016 04:50:24 AM 1498 Views
About insults... fionwe1987 - 02/01/2016 05:04:47 AM 1489 Views
I don't know where to even respond about all this! darius_sedai - 02/01/2016 07:39:43 PM 1504 Views
Re: I don't know where to even respond about all this! Sidious - 03/01/2016 10:39:10 AM 1494 Views
LOL ... Love it *NM* darius_sedai - 03/01/2016 04:17:02 PM 821 Views
Re: Okay... Cannoli - 02/01/2016 12:55:37 PM 1737 Views
Um, I think you are going a bit far with your assumptions darius_sedai - 01/01/2016 07:35:23 PM 1489 Views
Cannoli's the one who got offended. fionwe1987 - 31/12/2015 09:23:45 PM 1455 Views
Yeah, because I was talking about the books, and then you three started talking about me. Cannoli - 02/01/2016 03:55:23 AM 1526 Views
Re: Yeah, because I was talking about the books, and then you three started talking about me. fionwe1987 - 02/01/2016 04:56:36 AM 1452 Views
Re: You can dislike Cannoli, you can claim his arguments are biased... Sidious - 01/01/2016 08:41:18 AM 1491 Views
Right? Hell, I was semi-mocking YOU for even bothering to get into it with Cannoli! *NM* darius_sedai - 01/01/2016 05:20:58 PM 762 Views
Re: You people are the insane ones fionwe1987 - 29/12/2015 02:13:32 PM 1487 Views
Re: You people are the insane ones Cannoli - 30/12/2015 11:50:13 AM 1769 Views
Re: You people are the insane ones fionwe1987 - 30/12/2015 05:07:09 PM 1614 Views
My admittedly scratch memory gban007 - 31/12/2015 08:32:51 AM 1542 Views
Re: My admittedly scratch memory fionwe1987 - 31/12/2015 08:47:58 AM 1569 Views
Thanks gban007 - 01/01/2016 06:14:45 AM 1475 Views
One thing... fionwe1987 - 01/01/2016 06:42:10 AM 1407 Views
Re: One thing... Sidious - 01/01/2016 08:49:00 AM 1433 Views
Re: One thing... fionwe1987 - 01/01/2016 01:40:21 PM 1471 Views
We need a term for stuff like that. I nominate "pulling a Brandon" because "BS" is so common. Cannoli - 02/01/2016 02:13:19 AM 1511 Views
Interesting gban007 - 01/01/2016 09:18:43 AM 1430 Views
Re: Interesting darius_sedai - 01/01/2016 05:29:38 PM 1465 Views
Re: Interesting gban007 - 01/01/2016 06:50:26 PM 1433 Views
Or perhaps a mixed circle could figure it out darius_sedai - 01/01/2016 07:40:02 PM 1490 Views
Maybe it's like a broken bone? gban007 - 01/01/2016 09:10:26 PM 1427 Views
Re: Maybe it's like a broken bone? darius_sedai - 02/01/2016 01:13:05 AM 1474 Views
Re: My admittedly scratch memory Cannoli - 02/01/2016 02:10:44 AM 1688 Views
Here we go with the selective criticisms again... fionwe1987 - 02/01/2016 04:23:47 AM 1584 Views
It's not selective to point out legitimate differences in circumstances. Cannoli - 02/01/2016 12:25:07 PM 1759 Views
not true, the Sul'dam's mission was to capture or kill as many marath'damane as they could darius_sedai - 02/01/2016 08:49:28 PM 1428 Views
How are they supposed to do that without a'dam? Cannoli - 04/01/2016 01:45:52 AM 1525 Views
enemy combatant in an active hot zone darius_sedai - 04/01/2016 03:34:15 AM 1451 Views
Only if they were germane to the issue... fionwe1987 - 03/01/2016 09:32:22 AM 1446 Views
Timing of the creation of the three oaths gban007 - 03/01/2016 08:22:12 PM 1454 Views
Re: Timing of the creation of the three oaths darius_sedai - 03/01/2016 08:56:35 PM 1596 Views
Cheers gban007 - 03/01/2016 09:50:41 PM 1449 Views
Re: Cheers darius_sedai - 03/01/2016 10:35:34 PM 1568 Views
Re: Only if they were germane to the issue... Cannoli - 04/01/2016 07:15:58 AM 1530 Views
Q.E.D. fionwe1987 - 04/01/2016 12:29:58 PM 1788 Views
Re: Q.E.D. Sidious - 04/01/2016 02:41:19 PM 1681 Views
Interesting... fionwe1987 - 28/12/2015 02:31:33 PM 1519 Views
Re Perrin gban007 - 29/12/2015 07:24:41 AM 1586 Views
Perrin is right almost all the time. How is he not smart? Cannoli - 04/01/2016 08:26:18 AM 1692 Views
Re: Perrin is right almost all the time. How is he not smart? kHz1000 - 04/01/2016 01:44:53 PM 1575 Views
Re: Perrin is right almost all the time. How is he not smart? Cannoli - 07/01/2016 12:24:28 AM 1842 Views
Re: Let's have a survey! Seven questions, give your opinions Morning - 18/01/2016 04:40:03 PM 1306 Views
Re: Let's have a survey! Seven questions, give your opinions Morning - 18/01/2016 04:44:10 PM 1306 Views
Overrated characters Morning - 06/02/2016 04:24:55 PM 1331 Views
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