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Not to downplay Nynaeve BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 17/10/2009 08:40:45 PM
without him, the wondergirls would be toast and Nynaeve wouldn't have been able to do anything.

I assume you are referring to the Stone? Well in that case you would also have to say Juilin was as important, because without Juilin, Mat would have been toast. They pretty much shared the honors of that rescue.

NaCl(tho Mat, as always gets all the credit)H2O +<img class=' />


She did help carry Mat back to the WT in tDR, too, to heal his connection with the SL dagger.

But I think the Bowl of the Winds isn't very important at all in the grand scheme of things, and Alivia probably would have served as well as Nynaeve in cleansing saidin. She was really just a reservoir/conduit.

Oops, I thought I said I wasn't going to downplay Nynaeve.

Not that Mat has done much more, but he's been Networking, if you will :P, and that'll help a lot for TG.
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Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) RabidWombat - 17/10/2009 05:16:34 AM 1600 Views
Nyneave wins hands down Isaac - 17/10/2009 05:22:08 AM 847 Views
Nyneave has done more fairfax - 17/10/2009 06:42:26 AM 815 Views
Nynaeve! Fantasy - 17/10/2009 04:12:00 PM 761 Views
I'd say Mat BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 04:40:48 PM 846 Views
are you sure? NaClH2O - 17/10/2009 04:48:01 PM 862 Views
Not to downplay Nynaeve BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:40:45 PM 836 Views
Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow NaClH2O - 17/10/2009 10:44:15 PM 1052 Views
Re: Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 11:10:20 PM 766 Views
believe what you want, but if the weather hadn't changed when it did TG would be over by now. *NM* NaClH2O - 18/10/2009 11:56:09 PM 366 Views
Actually, there might be a better reason for why it mattered. Lord Haart - 10/12/2009 07:03:32 PM 813 Views
Immaterial. NaClH2O - 10/12/2009 07:48:51 PM 682 Views
It has to be Moiraine TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 05:00:32 PM 866 Views
Actually there were a couple of versions that happened, and Moiraine came in neither. Cannoli - 17/10/2009 05:32:52 PM 942 Views
So you think the story would have panned out TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 05:46:46 PM 699 Views
None. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:43:08 PM 353 Views
That's highly subjective ranagrande - 17/10/2009 08:52:17 PM 755 Views
Re: That's highly subjective BlackAdder - 17/10/2009 08:54:52 PM 699 Views
I think you know exactly what I mean. TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 10:53:40 PM 710 Views
All of them ranagrande - 18/10/2009 12:09:55 AM 834 Views
Those were only visions TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 12:45:32 AM 725 Views
They may have only been visions... ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:19:05 AM 769 Views
"Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere" TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 04:45:44 PM 714 Views
Re: "Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere" ranagrande - 18/10/2009 06:51:42 PM 848 Views
That all goes without saying TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 07:26:06 PM 636 Views
I disagree ranagrande - 18/10/2009 07:58:37 PM 740 Views
Re: I disagree TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 10:04:27 PM 731 Views
It's almost irrelevant- the Dragon Reborn was Foretold beetnemesis - 18/10/2009 02:07:47 AM 695 Views
Does that mean he'd win? TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 04:47:56 PM 722 Views
IIRC the prophecies don't say anything about whether the DR will win. BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 05:05:03 PM 669 Views
Not really what I was arguing. TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 05:30:05 PM 691 Views
Good points RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 06:14:08 AM 802 Views
the BCS is not a good system *NM* ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:08:25 AM 356 Views
Re: Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) Cannoli - 17/10/2009 05:26:26 PM 970 Views
Someone needs to re-adjust their meds RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 05:55:58 AM 831 Views
I wouldn't bother justifying yourself to him TheCrownless - 18/10/2009 05:41:42 PM 731 Views
That is true for most people if not all RabidWombat - 18/10/2009 11:28:44 PM 742 Views
He's got a point though... Cannoli - 21/10/2009 11:18:38 AM 797 Views
"Always fight back! Never justify" Internet discussion rules 101. TheCrownless - 21/10/2009 04:37:32 PM 703 Views
Damn skippy! *NM* Cannoli - 21/10/2009 11:17:36 AM 347 Views
Ishamael/Moridin Sidious - 17/10/2009 06:44:35 PM 967 Views
Good call TheCrownless - 17/10/2009 10:55:38 PM 780 Views
Not to mention I think he's more interested in self preservation at this moment Ryan - 18/10/2009 07:18:28 AM 652 Views
Re: Ishamael/Moridin ranagrande - 18/10/2009 09:21:29 AM 870 Views
lol It goes to show that even when you think you're doing evil, the Pattern makes it good. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 06:25:08 PM 334 Views
You make it sound very simple BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 10:47:57 PM 791 Views
No - it is very simple Sidious - 19/10/2009 05:01:44 AM 750 Views
Not necessarily- Digital_Eon - 19/10/2009 09:22:16 PM 760 Views
surely a draw meant resealing TheCrownless - 20/10/2009 03:56:49 PM 698 Views
I'm going with Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 06:23:55 PM 813 Views
Re: I'm going with Nynaeve. BlackAdder - 18/10/2009 10:56:06 PM 875 Views
Re: I'm going with Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/10/2009 11:22:36 PM 836 Views
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