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You make it sound very simple BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 18/10/2009 10:47:57 PM
As if Ishy could have just killed Rand and his two ta'veren pals in tEotW and it would be over, just like that. If that were the case, then I'd be really disappointed in the Dark One's ability to judge talent. He should have made Demandred Nae'blis/General of the Shadow. Rand and Co. wouldn't have lasted half a book if it were that easy, though.

I think it's been suggested before that, if Rand dies, the Pattern will just spit out others to take his place. That way, the only way the Shadow can hope to win is if they manipulate the Dragon into hurting his own side. That could explain the motivation to Turn him. Then again, couldn't they just have sent 13 AS and 13 Myrrdraal to the 2rivers (or a number of other places Rand travels to)?

Clearly, Moridin has a plan that requires Rand to survive till "the final day."
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Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) - 17/10/2009 05:16:34 AM 1915 Views
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Re: Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow - 18/10/2009 11:10:20 PM 1057 Views
believe what you want, but if the weather hadn't changed when it did TG would be over by now. *NM* - 18/10/2009 11:56:09 PM 490 Views
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Re: "Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere" - 18/10/2009 06:51:42 PM 1111 Views
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I disagree - 18/10/2009 07:58:37 PM 1030 Views
Re: I disagree - 18/10/2009 10:04:27 PM 1001 Views
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Re: Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion) - 17/10/2009 05:26:26 PM 1252 Views
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Re: Ishamael/Moridin - 18/10/2009 09:21:29 AM 1172 Views
You make it sound very simple - 18/10/2009 10:47:57 PM 1091 Views
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