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Re: Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 18/10/2009 11:10:20 PM
Well, OK. Moridin got upset at this. I'm not trying to say it was not important at all, just that it's not something I consider a huge setback for the Shadow. Even with the Bowl of the Winds, the DO is just overpowering it now. At best it gave the Light a few extra months "prep time", but that has made as many problems as it's solved, it seems.

And we've seen Moridin get upset over a lot of other things, too. As well as get excited for no apparent reason (PoD prologue where he is playing Shah'rah with himself).

I do appreciate your efforts to convince, but I'm just not seeing how it's really a game-changer type of event (like cleansing saidin, or the Seanchan invasion of Randland).


But I think the Bowl of the Winds isn't very important at all in the grand scheme of things,

From Path of Daggers "Unweaving" Moridin's PoV
"The Great Lord wold not be pleased. He had strained from his prison to touch the world enough to fix the seasons in place. He was impatient to touch the world more, to shatter the void that contained him, and he would not be pleased. Rage enveloped Moridin, blood pounding in his ear. A moment past, he had not cared wher those women went, but now... Somewhere far from here. People fleeing ran as far and as fast as they could. Somewhere they felt safe. No use sending Madic to ask questions, no use squeezing anyone here; they would not have been fool enough to leave anyone behind alive who knew their destination."...
and a bit further on after he realizes he squeezed all the blood out of Madic...
"He had to find those women before they used this Bowl of the Winds. And failing that....He disliked people meddling with his carefully laid plans. Those who did and lived, lived to pay."

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Re: Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow - 18/10/2009 11:10:20 PM 1057 Views
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