Re: Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow
BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 18/10/2009 11:10:20 PM
Well, OK. Moridin got upset at this. I'm not trying to say it was not important at all, just that it's not something I consider a huge setback for the Shadow. Even with the Bowl of the Winds, the DO is just overpowering it now. At best it gave the Light a few extra months "prep time", but that has made as many problems as it's solved, it seems.
And we've seen Moridin get upset over a lot of other things, too. As well as get excited for no apparent reason (PoD prologue where he is playing Shah'rah with himself).
I do appreciate your efforts to convince, but I'm just not seeing how it's really a game-changer type of event (like cleansing saidin, or the Seanchan invasion of Randland).
But I think the Bowl of the Winds isn't very important at all in the grand scheme of things,
From Path of Daggers "Unweaving" Moridin's PoV
"The Great Lord wold not be pleased. He had strained from his prison to touch the world enough to fix the seasons in place. He was impatient to touch the world more, to shatter the void that contained him, and he would not be pleased. Rage enveloped Moridin, blood pounding in his ear. A moment past, he had not cared wher those women went, but now... Somewhere far from here. People fleeing ran as far and as fast as they could. Somewhere they felt safe. No use sending Madic to ask questions, no use squeezing anyone here; they would not have been fool enough to leave anyone behind alive who knew their destination."...
and a bit further on after he realizes he squeezed all the blood out of Madic...
"He had to find those women before they used this Bowl of the Winds. And failing that....He disliked people meddling with his carefully laid plans. Those who did and lived, lived to pay."
NaCl(you still believe it was unimportant? )H2O
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And we've seen Moridin get upset over a lot of other things, too. As well as get excited for no apparent reason (PoD prologue where he is playing Shah'rah with himself).
I do appreciate your efforts to convince, but I'm just not seeing how it's really a game-changer type of event (like cleansing saidin, or the Seanchan invasion of Randland).
But I think the Bowl of the Winds isn't very important at all in the grand scheme of things,
From Path of Daggers "Unweaving" Moridin's PoV
"The Great Lord wold not be pleased. He had strained from his prison to touch the world enough to fix the seasons in place. He was impatient to touch the world more, to shatter the void that contained him, and he would not be pleased. Rage enveloped Moridin, blood pounding in his ear. A moment past, he had not cared wher those women went, but now... Somewhere far from here. People fleeing ran as far and as fast as they could. Somewhere they felt safe. No use sending Madic to ask questions, no use squeezing anyone here; they would not have been fool enough to leave anyone behind alive who knew their destination."...
and a bit further on after he realizes he squeezed all the blood out of Madic...
"He had to find those women before they used this Bowl of the Winds. And failing that....He disliked people meddling with his carefully laid plans. Those who did and lived, lived to pay."
NaCl(you still believe it was unimportant? )H2O
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Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion)
- 17/10/2009 05:16:34 AM
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I'd say Mat
- 17/10/2009 04:40:48 PM
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are you sure?
- 17/10/2009 04:48:01 PM
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Not to downplay Nynaeve
- 17/10/2009 08:40:45 PM
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Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow
- 17/10/2009 10:44:15 PM
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Re: Beg to differ, the "endless summer" was VERY important to the shadow
- 18/10/2009 11:10:20 PM
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believe what you want, but if the weather hadn't changed when it did TG would be over by now. *NM*
- 18/10/2009 11:56:09 PM
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It has to be Moiraine
- 17/10/2009 05:00:32 PM
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Actually there were a couple of versions that happened, and Moiraine came in neither.
- 17/10/2009 05:32:52 PM
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So you think the story would have panned out
- 17/10/2009 05:46:46 PM
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That's highly subjective
- 17/10/2009 08:52:17 PM
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I think you know exactly what I mean.
- 17/10/2009 10:53:40 PM
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All of them 
- 18/10/2009 12:09:55 AM
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- 18/10/2009 12:09:55 AM
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Those were only visions
- 18/10/2009 12:45:32 AM
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They may have only been visions...
- 18/10/2009 09:19:05 AM
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"Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere"
- 18/10/2009 04:45:44 PM
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Re: "Every possible outcome to a given situation is the actual outcome somewhere"
- 18/10/2009 06:51:42 PM
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It's almost irrelevant- the Dragon Reborn was Foretold
- 18/10/2009 02:07:47 AM
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Does that mean he'd win?
- 18/10/2009 04:47:56 PM
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IIRC the prophecies don't say anything about whether the DR will win.
- 18/10/2009 05:05:03 PM
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Re: Which character (besides Rand) has hurt the shadow the most? (my analysis and your opinion)
- 17/10/2009 05:26:26 PM
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Someone needs to re-adjust their meds
- 18/10/2009 05:55:58 AM
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I wouldn't bother justifying yourself to him
- 18/10/2009 05:41:42 PM
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That is true for most people if not all
- 18/10/2009 11:28:44 PM
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He's got a point though...
- 21/10/2009 11:18:38 AM
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"Always fight back! Never justify" Internet discussion rules 101.
- 21/10/2009 04:37:32 PM
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Ishamael/Moridin
- 17/10/2009 06:44:35 PM
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Good call
- 17/10/2009 10:55:38 PM
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Not to mention I think he's more interested in self preservation at this moment
- 18/10/2009 07:18:28 AM
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lol It goes to show that even when you think you're doing evil, the Pattern makes it good. *NM*
- 18/10/2009 06:25:08 PM
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You make it sound very simple
- 18/10/2009 10:47:57 PM
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No - it is very simple
- 19/10/2009 05:01:44 AM
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I'm going with Nynaeve.
- 18/10/2009 06:23:55 PM
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