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so I guess ... Bookwyrm Send a noteboard - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM
Egwene being tortured, humiliated, and nearly killed wasn't enough for you? Outchannel her? We've seen that already with her fights with the Forsaken. We've seen her collared. We've seen her almost become Myrrdraal fodder. I for one think she is what she is and a heroine nonetheless.

She is a stout hearted Two Rivers folk. Asking her to be not self-righteous (when she is in the right) is like wanting Mat not be a a rebellious, irresponsible "cool" character, or Nynaeve to be so stubborn, Perrin slow, etc.

Rand has big burdens, lost loved ones, lost a hand, almost went psychotic from mistreatment by Elaida's AS. But he still acts like a fool. So why not hate on him? But I don't, and I don't expect others to either. He has enough problems.

Why are you singling out Egwene? I understand if you just don't like her character, but you shouldn't (and thats a collective you to all Eqwene haters) be saying stuff like that when the character is not even that faulty. Sure the current Aes Sedai aren't that great, but it's what the world has, and they are doing what they do for the betterment of mankind. Boo on you. Off to the boo box with the lot of you.

You know who REALLY needs to be put in his place? Mat! He's been strutting around the ENTIRE series so far without any repercussion from his irreverence and insulting manner to others. Let's see. He has the knowledge of every general who ever lived, he has natural, UNEARNED skill with fighting that even bested Gawyn and Galad. He is lecherous and insulting to women. He gambles and drinks to run away from responsibility. And this is the character almost everyone loves to near death over a girl who is responsible, loyal, and genuinely nice? IDC if Mat's nice at his core, if I had a friend like him around me, I'd beat his ass up and tell him to man up, grow some balls, and fracking rescue Moiraine already. He's a ****ing lazy piece of ****. :P

Sorry if my rant went downhill there, but I'm tired of the Egwene bashing. I'm merely balancing sh*t out with some Mat hate. :D
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2758 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 1132 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 1080 Views
Agreed! *NM* - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 640 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 1001 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 1121 Views
Me too - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 1169 Views
Exactly. - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 1000 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 1180 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 1028 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 575 Views
Ahhh. - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 1004 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 1006 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 1063 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 1000 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1553 Views
Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1232 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 1206 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 1101 Views
General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 1014 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 1035 Views
Thanks. - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 1145 Views
double post, hate my computer. - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 1128 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 992 Views
so I guess ... - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1236 Views
You want a friend like Mat - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 1019 Views
might I add.. - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 957 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 1069 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 1050 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 975 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 1086 Views
Like others don't have flaws? - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 1034 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 1151 Views
Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 1217 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 1101 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 1127 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 1049 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 1060 Views
And you aren't? - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 1006 Views
Seems to me you're both right. - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 1020 Views
Bah - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 1103 Views
wait a sec... - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 1159 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 993 Views
Re: Bah - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 1121 Views
Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 966 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 1008 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 1130 Views
Obviously. - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 988 Views
Well... - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 910 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 1028 Views
Tar Valon is a nation - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 1073 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 1167 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 1108 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 1098 Views
Hmm..... - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 945 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 455 Views
Not a problem... - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 1014 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 1170 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 1118 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 961 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 1108 Views
*snort* *NM* - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 569 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 1072 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 1154 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 1130 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 1095 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 1075 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 1058 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 1021 Views
I have one question - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 1052 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 1063 Views
Capture OR kill - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 1115 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 949 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 974 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 585 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 1037 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 993 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 1181 Views

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