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How so? What does he do that is detrimentally immature? Cannoli Send a noteboard - 01/11/2009 08:05:07 AM
Mat is in the position he is in because he repeatedly steps up and takes on his own shoulders the responsibility for saving other people from their own dangers. He not only fulfills all of his responsibilities, he takes care of others as well. What, exactly is immature about that? What should he have done instead? For that matter, what does he get out of any of this for himself? He is far and away the most altruistic of the main secondary characters.
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. Cannoli - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2794 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. redhand - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 1162 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 1111 Views
Agreed! *NM* Mats imaginary friend - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 653 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 1034 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 1153 Views
Me too Sidious - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 1200 Views
Exactly. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 1031 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. thebestrob - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 1211 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 1067 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 591 Views
Ahhh. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 1044 Views
Re: Ahhh. Bookwyrm - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 1042 Views
Re: Ahhh. Seriana Sedai - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 1094 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. Asha'man - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 1033 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1582 Views
Everything up to tGS Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1264 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 1236 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? Cannoli - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 1133 Views
General impression lately I guess. Seriana Sedai - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 1042 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 1062 Views
Thanks. Seriana Sedai - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 1175 Views
double post, hate my computer. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 1164 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is Lord o' Salv - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 1021 Views
so I guess ... Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1266 Views
You want a friend like Mat TheCrownless - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 1059 Views
Yes, he will pull thru 4 u in the end, but Matt still needs to grow up. and fast *NM* Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 07:32:28 PM 600 Views
How so? What does he do that is detrimentally immature? Cannoli - 01/11/2009 08:05:07 AM 1072 Views
might I add.. urizen - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 986 Views
Re: might I add.. Sidious - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 1097 Views
Re: might I add.. urizen - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 1077 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack TheCrownless - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 1003 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws ajfurst - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 1115 Views
Like others don't have flaws? Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 1060 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 1186 Views
Touched a nerve did I? Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 1251 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? thebestrob - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 1135 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 1175 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? Cannoli - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 1079 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 1093 Views
And you aren't? Cannoli - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 1034 Views
Seems to me you're both right. Legolas - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 1051 Views
Bah Sidious - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 1124 Views
wait a sec... scalius - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 1196 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. entyti - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 1028 Views
Actually, Elaida WILL reveal Traveling. We've seen countless times AS broken easily by the Seanchan. *NM* Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 05:28:06 PM 582 Views
More than likely, but if anyone could avoid giving it up it would be stubborn, self rightous Elaida. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 09:20:31 PM 863 Views
Re: Bah Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 1153 Views
Rant on! Rant on! rho - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 1002 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 1036 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? LTArmstrong - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 1152 Views
Obviously. Great Lord of Chaos - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 1025 Views
I'm afraid of the ooze left over when I take spam out of a can *shiver* *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 05:39:03 AM 478 Views
Well... Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 938 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 1060 Views
Tar Valon is a nation Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 1120 Views
The Aes Sedai are not. The Tower as a whole rules the polity of Tar Valon. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 11:34:42 PM 1170 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument Legolas - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 1207 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... fionwe1987 - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 1138 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. Legolas - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 1125 Views
Hmm..... Sidious - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 976 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* Legolas - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 471 Views
Not a problem... fionwe1987 - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 1045 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? Cannoli - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 1204 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen rho - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 1154 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her Deadsy - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 989 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 1142 Views
*snort* *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 584 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 1101 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... fionwe1987 - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 1183 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... Cannoli - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 1159 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... fionwe1987 - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 1124 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... Cannoli - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 1109 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... fionwe1987 - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 1101 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. Cannoli - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 1050 Views
I have one question Sidious - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 1073 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. Cannoli - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 1091 Views
Capture OR kill Sidious - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 1149 Views
Re: The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her rho - 31/10/2009 04:31:29 PM 980 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 979 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren rho - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 1007 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* Legolas - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 601 Views
I don't agree with all of that, but yes, Egwene's successes are a little too much. Legolas - 31/10/2009 04:30:32 PM 1160 Views
I too wondered when exactly Elaida took an overdose of crazy pills Asha'man - 01/11/2009 06:46:16 AM 1215 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... Zeratul - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 1065 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. Kronin al'Sulc - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 1028 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite Zeratul - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 1222 Views
Poor cannoli; give it a rest you ridiculous numsquatz NaClH2O - 07/11/2009 06:43:10 PM 965 Views
Yes, my long string of complaints about Sanderson has reached the limit. Cannoli - 09/11/2009 05:22:23 PM 1017 Views
Re: Yes, my long string of complaints about Sanderson has reached the limit. Sidious - 10/11/2009 07:36:46 AM 1154 Views
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