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EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! Cannoli Send a noteboard - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM
Nothing was handed to her on a platter like some ta'averen I know. pfft She suffers alot, and gets handed ONE break and you see that as something given to her on a platter? ROFLOLMAO
What HASN'T been handed to her on a platter? If she hadn't been associated with Rand, she'd not have left the Tower in tGH and would not have been chosen to hunt the Black Ajah or skip the years of training before being allow to test for Accepted. If not for those events, she'd NEVER have been chosen Amyrlin for another century or so, and would not have been Aes Sedai anytime soon. She was summoned and named Amyrlin. She did not put in any time or effort, she didn't even earn the shawl before she was given it with the Amyrlin seat, which was given to her not in appreciation of her virtues, but in recognition of her shortcomings. She was handed a blackmailed advisor to help her overcome her instincts that would have had her deposed or bound hand and foot to Romanda or Lelaine. She was handled a captive Forsaken to enable her to produce discoveries to impress the sisters. She had Verin show up and hand her a list of the Black Ajah, she had followers come into the Tower to rescue her when she was wiped out from the battle, and then the real Hall decides to name her Amyrlin because they can't stand one another. She has not contributed anything to anyone related to the cause of the fight against the Shadow, aside from the White Tower. Rand's advice that helped her figure out how to Travel was far more help than she ever gave him. Egwene has been handed EVERYTHING because she happens to know people with real power and accomplishments whose idea of loyalty and friendship is far stronger than her own.

Mat has luck. The Pattern hands shit to him on a silver freaking platter every book. He should be lynched. Oh wait, he even survived THAT! -_-
WHAT is handed to him on a platter? Money? So what? He has had to pay for everything. He got the Band because he saved their lives and proved his leadership by defeating Aiel in multiple engagements. Name a wetlander general who had done that before Mat. And his luck works mainly to force him into danger to get things done. The goodies that come along are just to balance having buildings dropped on his head, or the leader of the Shaido trying to carve a path through Mat's troops, or evil daggers giving him brain damage, or the Horn of Valere painting a massive target on his back. Additionally, Mat doesn't WANT power or glory (as he proved by blowing the Horn), whereas Egwene does.

jeez. It's like every1 expects Egwene to be a simpering idiot. I swear, see one woman have more balls than a man and they go apeshit.
Blow it out your ass. That is a stupid and reflexively thoughtless argument that proves you only don't
Cannoli
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- The Crownless

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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. Cannoli - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2704 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. redhand - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 1079 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 1038 Views
Agreed! *NM* Mats imaginary friend - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 620 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 950 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 1072 Views
Me too Sidious - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 1121 Views
Exactly. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 950 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. thebestrob - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 1130 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 976 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 545 Views
Ahhh. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 954 Views
Re: Ahhh. Bookwyrm - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 941 Views
Re: Ahhh. Seriana Sedai - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 1003 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. Asha'man - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 947 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1497 Views
Everything up to tGS Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1186 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 1148 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? Cannoli - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 1050 Views
General impression lately I guess. Seriana Sedai - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 969 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 984 Views
Thanks. Seriana Sedai - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 1084 Views
double post, hate my computer. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 1073 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is Lord o' Salv - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 941 Views
so I guess ... Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1190 Views
You want a friend like Mat TheCrownless - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 963 Views
Yes, he will pull thru 4 u in the end, but Matt still needs to grow up. and fast *NM* Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 07:32:28 PM 562 Views
How so? What does he do that is detrimentally immature? Cannoli - 01/11/2009 08:05:07 AM 983 Views
might I add.. urizen - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 904 Views
Re: might I add.. Sidious - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 1021 Views
Re: might I add.. urizen - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 1008 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack TheCrownless - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 925 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws ajfurst - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 1037 Views
Like others don't have flaws? Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 983 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 1090 Views
Touched a nerve did I? Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 1158 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? thebestrob - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 1051 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 1080 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? Cannoli - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 981 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 998 Views
And you aren't? Cannoli - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 948 Views
Seems to me you're both right. Legolas - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 961 Views
Bah Sidious - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 1045 Views
wait a sec... scalius - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 1109 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. entyti - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 936 Views
Actually, Elaida WILL reveal Traveling. We've seen countless times AS broken easily by the Seanchan. *NM* Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 05:28:06 PM 545 Views
More than likely, but if anyone could avoid giving it up it would be stubborn, self rightous Elaida. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 09:20:31 PM 783 Views
Re: Bah Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 1066 Views
Rant on! Rant on! rho - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 923 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 969 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? LTArmstrong - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 1074 Views
Obviously. Great Lord of Chaos - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 930 Views
I'm afraid of the ooze left over when I take spam out of a can *shiver* *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 05:39:03 AM 442 Views
Well... Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 866 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 988 Views
Tar Valon is a nation Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 1006 Views
The Aes Sedai are not. The Tower as a whole rules the polity of Tar Valon. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 11:34:42 PM 1086 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument Legolas - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 1118 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... fionwe1987 - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 1050 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. Legolas - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 1052 Views
Hmm..... Sidious - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 886 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* Legolas - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 430 Views
Not a problem... fionwe1987 - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 965 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? Cannoli - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 1114 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen rho - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 1061 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her Deadsy - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 909 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 1062 Views
*snort* *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 551 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 1030 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... fionwe1987 - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 1100 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... Cannoli - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 1078 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... fionwe1987 - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 1052 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... Cannoli - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 1039 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... fionwe1987 - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 1001 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. Cannoli - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 972 Views
I have one question Sidious - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 1004 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. Cannoli - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 1017 Views
Capture OR kill Sidious - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 1051 Views
Re: The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her rho - 31/10/2009 04:31:29 PM 914 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 912 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren rho - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 923 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* Legolas - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 567 Views
I don't agree with all of that, but yes, Egwene's successes are a little too much. Legolas - 31/10/2009 04:30:32 PM 1067 Views
I too wondered when exactly Elaida took an overdose of crazy pills Asha'man - 01/11/2009 06:46:16 AM 1122 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... Zeratul - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 980 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. Kronin al'Sulc - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 942 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite Zeratul - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 1136 Views
Poor cannoli; give it a rest you ridiculous numsquatz NaClH2O - 07/11/2009 06:43:10 PM 882 Views
Yes, my long string of complaints about Sanderson has reached the limit. Cannoli - 09/11/2009 05:22:23 PM 940 Views
Re: Yes, my long string of complaints about Sanderson has reached the limit. Sidious - 10/11/2009 07:36:46 AM 1074 Views
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