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The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument Legolas Send a noteboard - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM
As someone points out in the book itself (though I don't remember where now), it's likely that other Amyrlins were elected by Black Ajah Sitters - indeed, Egwene was. They try to make an argument that it's different because Egwene had enough votes to make it even without the Black votes, but I can't see how that makes any legal difference, to be honest. Political, yes. Legal, no. Trying to declare binding votes invalid retroactively because you realize afterwards that some of the voters were criminals doesn't make much sense, and is an enormous slippery slope besides - a number of other decisions of both the Tar Valon Hall and the Salidar one might suddenly prove invalid as well if you follow that line of argument, including, ironically, Salidar's decision to go to war on Tar Valon all the way back in tPoD. Take out Delana's and Moria's votes in favour, and the decision fails to pass, I just checked. See link.

So honestly, Elaida's election was legal, that wasn't the problem with it. If anything strictly speaking illegal happened during that coup, it's more likely to have been the murder of Alric or other things.
tPoD chapter 19 summary
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2620 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 999 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 971 Views
Agreed! *NM* - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 582 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 887 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 988 Views
Me too - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 1035 Views
Exactly. - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 890 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 1065 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 919 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 503 Views
Ahhh. - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 887 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 881 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 917 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 867 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1397 Views
Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1105 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 1076 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 987 Views
General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 890 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 925 Views
Thanks. - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 1011 Views
double post, hate my computer. - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 992 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 865 Views
so I guess ... - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1096 Views
You want a friend like Mat - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 897 Views
might I add.. - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 839 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 942 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 944 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 870 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 950 Views
Like others don't have flaws? - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 932 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 978 Views
Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 1058 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 983 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 1028 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 899 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 931 Views
And you aren't? - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 888 Views
Seems to me you're both right. - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 882 Views
Bah - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 967 Views
wait a sec... - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 1036 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 864 Views
Re: Bah - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 1001 Views
Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 847 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 898 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 990 Views
Obviously. - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 864 Views
Well... - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 803 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 915 Views
Tar Valon is a nation - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 903 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 1006 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 984 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 991 Views
Hmm..... - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 832 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 390 Views
Not a problem... - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 905 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 1059 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 993 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 850 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 989 Views
*snort* *NM* - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 515 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 963 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 1024 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 1012 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 990 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 969 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 941 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 896 Views
I have one question - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 942 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 923 Views
Capture OR kill - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 987 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 843 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 859 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 531 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 930 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 888 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 1058 Views

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