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It wasn't absurd. Just clever... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM
As someone points out in the book itself (though I don't remember where now), it's likely that other Amyrlins were elected by Black Ajah Sitters - indeed, Egwene was. They try to make an argument that it's different because Egwene had enough votes to make it even without the Black votes, but I can't see how that makes any legal difference, to be honest. Political, yes. Legal, no. Trying to declare binding votes invalid retroactively because you realize afterwards that some of the voters were criminals doesn't make much sense, and is an enormous slippery slope besides - a number of other decisions of both the Tar Valon Hall and the Salidar one might suddenly prove invalid as well if you follow that line of argument, including, ironically, Salidar's decision to go to war on Tar Valon all the way back in tPoD. Take out Delana's and Moria's votes in favour, and the decision fails to pass, I just checked. See link.

So honestly, Elaida's election was legal, that wasn't the problem with it. If anything strictly speaking illegal happened during that coup, it's more likely to have been the murder of Alric or other things.

The main illegality with Elaida's election was that her secret calling of 11 Sitters most likely counts as collusion, which is a major crime.

However, the Rebels cause was never justified as fighting an illegal Amyrlin. They merely claim that Elaida's rise, while technically legal, grossly violated the spirit of the law, and her stilling of Siuan and Leane without trial, and the murder of Alric, were definitely not even remotely legal.

Not to mention hiring mercenaries to kill sisters...
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2587 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 971 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 949 Views
Agreed! *NM* - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 566 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 853 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 956 Views
Me too - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 1016 Views
Exactly. - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 858 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 1039 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 892 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 490 Views
Ahhh. - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 867 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 857 Views
Re: Ahhh. - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 891 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 842 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1373 Views
Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1075 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 1055 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 962 Views
General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 868 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 897 Views
Thanks. - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 982 Views
double post, hate my computer. - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 966 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 844 Views
so I guess ... - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1071 Views
You want a friend like Mat - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 862 Views
might I add.. - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 812 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 915 Views
Re: might I add.. - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 922 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 843 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 921 Views
Like others don't have flaws? - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 906 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 946 Views
Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 1036 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 952 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 1006 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 871 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 910 Views
And you aren't? - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 862 Views
Seems to me you're both right. - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 855 Views
Bah - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 937 Views
wait a sec... - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 1015 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 838 Views
Re: Bah - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 974 Views
Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 821 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 874 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 961 Views
Obviously. - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 833 Views
Well... - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 780 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 886 Views
Tar Valon is a nation - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 866 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 982 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 961 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 960 Views
Hmm..... - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 804 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 381 Views
Not a problem... - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 881 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 1032 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 966 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 815 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 961 Views
*snort* *NM* - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 489 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 933 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 997 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 978 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 963 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 944 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 908 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 875 Views
I have one question - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 913 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 896 Views
Capture OR kill - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 951 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 817 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 834 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 519 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 901 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 859 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 1036 Views

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