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How so? What does he do that is detrimentally immature? Cannoli Send a noteboard - 01/11/2009 08:05:07 AM
Mat is in the position he is in because he repeatedly steps up and takes on his own shoulders the responsibility for saving other people from their own dangers. He not only fulfills all of his responsibilities, he takes care of others as well. What, exactly is immature about that? What should he have done instead? For that matter, what does he get out of any of this for himself? He is far and away the most altruistic of the main secondary characters.
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. Cannoli - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2795 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. redhand - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 1163 Views
I skimmed cannoli's predictable rant. I disagree. I LOVED EVERY CHAPTER! Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 03:29:24 AM 1113 Views
Agreed! *NM* Mats imaginary friend - 30/10/2009 03:47:52 AM 655 Views
I liked her chapters. Mainly because they gave her something to do. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/10/2009 09:43:58 PM 1035 Views
I adore Brandon Sanderson. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 05:05:11 AM 1155 Views
Me too Sidious - 30/10/2009 10:38:52 AM 1201 Views
Exactly. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 04:33:11 PM 1032 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. thebestrob - 30/10/2009 02:45:03 PM 1213 Views
Re: I adore Brandon Sanderson. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 04:34:53 PM 1068 Views
I think he meant Cannoli, not you, Seriana. *NM* Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 05:30:17 PM 593 Views
Ahhh. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 09:15:14 PM 1045 Views
Re: Ahhh. Bookwyrm - 31/10/2009 03:51:14 AM 1043 Views
Re: Ahhh. Seriana Sedai - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 1095 Views
Ditto. Thought he was a breath of fresh air to the series. Asha'man - 30/10/2009 03:27:43 PM 1035 Views
If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1584 Views
Everything up to tGS Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1265 Views
Re: Everything up to tGS Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 08:21:33 PM 1238 Views
What on earth makes you think I dislike it? Cannoli - 31/10/2009 05:25:07 AM 1134 Views
General impression lately I guess. Seriana Sedai - 31/10/2009 04:38:29 PM 1043 Views
Re: General impression lately I guess. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 1063 Views
Thanks. Seriana Sedai - 01/11/2009 06:32:12 AM 1178 Views
double post, hate my computer. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 1166 Views
Don't agree completely but what I do want to see is Lord o' Salv - 30/10/2009 07:12:54 AM 1022 Views
so I guess ... Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1267 Views
You want a friend like Mat TheCrownless - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 1061 Views
Yes, he will pull thru 4 u in the end, but Matt still needs to grow up. and fast *NM* Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 07:32:28 PM 601 Views
How so? What does he do that is detrimentally immature? Cannoli - 01/11/2009 08:05:07 AM 1073 Views
might I add.. urizen - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 989 Views
Re: might I add.. Sidious - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 1098 Views
Re: might I add.. urizen - 30/10/2009 06:47:17 PM 1077 Views
There is a difference between defending your home from attack TheCrownless - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 1003 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws ajfurst - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 1116 Views
Like others don't have flaws? Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 1061 Views
EVERYTHING is handed to her on a platter! Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:41:02 PM 1187 Views
Touched a nerve did I? Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 1253 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? thebestrob - 30/10/2009 07:24:41 PM 1137 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 1176 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? Cannoli - 31/10/2009 06:36:33 AM 1080 Views
Re: Touched a nerve did I? Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 1095 Views
And you aren't? Cannoli - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 1035 Views
Seems to me you're both right. Legolas - 01/11/2009 07:45:12 PM 1053 Views
Bah Sidious - 30/10/2009 03:36:42 PM 1126 Views
wait a sec... scalius - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 1197 Views
Now now! Let's take off the rose-tinted glasses for a minute. entyti - 30/10/2009 05:21:07 PM 1028 Views
Actually, Elaida WILL reveal Traveling. We've seen countless times AS broken easily by the Seanchan. *NM* Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 05:28:06 PM 582 Views
More than likely, but if anyone could avoid giving it up it would be stubborn, self rightous Elaida. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 09:20:31 PM 864 Views
Re: Bah Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 1154 Views
Rant on! Rant on! rho - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 1003 Views
Re: Rant on! Rant on! Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 03:18:44 PM 1037 Views
A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? LTArmstrong - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 1153 Views
Obviously. Great Lord of Chaos - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 1026 Views
I'm afraid of the ooze left over when I take spam out of a can *shiver* *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 05:39:03 AM 478 Views
Well... Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 939 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 1061 Views
Tar Valon is a nation Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 1121 Views
The Aes Sedai are not. The Tower as a whole rules the polity of Tar Valon. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 11:34:42 PM 1171 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument Legolas - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 1209 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... fionwe1987 - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 1139 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. Legolas - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 1127 Views
Hmm..... Sidious - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 977 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* Legolas - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 472 Views
Not a problem... fionwe1987 - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 1047 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? Cannoli - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 1206 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen rho - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 1155 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her Deadsy - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 991 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 1143 Views
*snort* *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 584 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 1102 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... fionwe1987 - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 1184 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... Cannoli - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 1161 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... fionwe1987 - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 1127 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... Cannoli - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 1111 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... fionwe1987 - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 1102 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. Cannoli - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 1052 Views
I have one question Sidious - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 1075 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. Cannoli - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 1093 Views
Capture OR kill Sidious - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 1150 Views
Re: The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her rho - 31/10/2009 04:31:29 PM 982 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 980 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren rho - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 1009 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* Legolas - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 601 Views
I don't agree with all of that, but yes, Egwene's successes are a little too much. Legolas - 31/10/2009 04:30:32 PM 1162 Views
I too wondered when exactly Elaida took an overdose of crazy pills Asha'man - 01/11/2009 06:46:16 AM 1218 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... Zeratul - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 1066 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. Kronin al'Sulc - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 1029 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite Zeratul - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 1223 Views
Poor cannoli; give it a rest you ridiculous numsquatz NaClH2O - 07/11/2009 06:43:10 PM 966 Views
Yes, my long string of complaints about Sanderson has reached the limit. Cannoli - 09/11/2009 05:22:23 PM 1019 Views
Re: Yes, my long string of complaints about Sanderson has reached the limit. Sidious - 10/11/2009 07:36:46 AM 1155 Views
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