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I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. Legolas Send a noteboard - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM

The main illegality with Elaida's election was that her secret calling of 11 Sitters most likely counts as collusion, which is a major crime.

However, the Rebels cause was never justified as fighting an illegal Amyrlin. They merely claim that Elaida's rise, while technically legal, grossly violated the spirit of the law, and her stilling of Siuan and Leane without trial, and the murder of Alric, were definitely not even remotely legal.

Not to mention hiring mercenaries to kill sisters...


That's kind of the whole point - Elaida only acted when she had the minimum of votes needed to legally dispose Siuan and appoint her. I've always assumed that she got permission from the Hall, which apparently has the authority for that, to still Siuan and Leane immediately. The murder of Alric, yes, as I said, it's hard to imagine that being legal or permitted by the Hall.

I was merely pointing out the absurdity of Sidious' argument, that's all.

You'll have to refresh my memory about the hiring mercenaries to kill sisters...
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Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen One. Cannoli - 30/10/2009 02:36:19 AM 2757 Views
Life in unfair, just let Egwene have it already. redhand - 30/10/2009 03:11:04 AM 1131 Views
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Re: Ahhh. Seriana Sedai - 01/11/2009 06:37:41 AM 1063 Views
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If renewal means someone grossly unfamiliar with the series, sure. Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:26:19 PM 1552 Views
Everything up to tGS Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:25:28 PM 1231 Views
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Re: General impression lately I guess. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 10:41:06 PM 1035 Views
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double post, hate my computer. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 08:24:12 PM 1128 Views
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so I guess ... Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 02:48:10 PM 1234 Views
You want a friend like Mat TheCrownless - 30/10/2009 06:33:47 PM 1018 Views
Yes, he will pull thru 4 u in the end, but Matt still needs to grow up. and fast *NM* Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 07:32:28 PM 582 Views
How so? What does he do that is detrimentally immature? Cannoli - 01/11/2009 08:05:07 AM 1039 Views
might I add.. urizen - 30/10/2009 08:30:24 AM 956 Views
Re: might I add.. Sidious - 30/10/2009 10:41:39 AM 1068 Views
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There is a difference between defending your home from attack TheCrownless - 31/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 974 Views
I sit somewhere in the middle, she's improved, but still many flaws ajfurst - 30/10/2009 11:35:47 AM 1086 Views
Like others don't have flaws? Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 02:58:08 PM 1034 Views
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Touched a nerve did I? Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 07:19:00 PM 1217 Views
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Re: Touched a nerve did I? Bookwyrm - 30/10/2009 07:31:14 PM 1126 Views
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Re: Touched a nerve did I? Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:33:34 AM 1059 Views
And you aren't? Cannoli - 01/11/2009 12:42:50 AM 1005 Views
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wait a sec... scalius - 30/10/2009 04:31:56 PM 1158 Views
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More than likely, but if anyone could avoid giving it up it would be stubborn, self rightous Elaida. Seriana Sedai - 30/10/2009 09:20:31 PM 832 Views
Re: Bah Cannoli - 30/10/2009 06:49:47 PM 1121 Views
Rant on! Rant on! rho - 30/10/2009 12:54:16 PM 965 Views
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A personal question: Cannoli, are you threatened by a powerful woman? LTArmstrong - 30/10/2009 07:13:30 PM 1129 Views
Obviously. Great Lord of Chaos - 31/10/2009 05:37:52 AM 988 Views
I'm afraid of the ooze left over when I take spam out of a can *shiver* *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 05:39:03 AM 462 Views
Well... Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:56:56 AM 909 Views
Countries are real, normal and natural things. The White Tower has no proven value. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 06:52:48 AM 1027 Views
Tar Valon is a nation Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:20:43 AM 1072 Views
The Aes Sedai are not. The Tower as a whole rules the polity of Tar Valon. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 11:34:42 PM 1134 Views
The "Elaida's election was illegal because of Black Ajah Sitters" is really an absurd argument Legolas - 01/11/2009 12:06:32 AM 1166 Views
It wasn't absurd. Just clever... fionwe1987 - 01/11/2009 03:33:22 AM 1107 Views
I wasn't saying the rebels had no cause for rebellion. Just that the election *was* legal. Legolas - 01/11/2009 10:38:59 AM 1098 Views
Hmm..... Sidious - 06/11/2009 04:18:14 PM 944 Views
I take it she'll carefully avoid bringing up the war vote, then. *NM* Legolas - 08/11/2009 12:47:21 AM 455 Views
Not a problem... fionwe1987 - 08/11/2009 06:17:39 AM 1013 Views
Are you blinded by a pair of teats? Cannoli - 31/10/2009 07:17:44 AM 1169 Views
Re: Well Brandon Sanderson has officially killed off the last volume of the Epic Saga of the Chosen rho - 30/10/2009 11:38:24 PM 1116 Views
The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her Deadsy - 31/10/2009 05:40:20 AM 960 Views
It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. Cannoli - 31/10/2009 07:18:42 AM 1107 Views
*snort* *NM* Deadsy - 31/10/2009 07:19:49 AM 568 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:28:16 AM 1071 Views
Don't expect rationality from Cannoli... fionwe1987 - 31/10/2009 02:01:45 PM 1153 Views
Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... Cannoli - 01/11/2009 01:07:06 AM 1129 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... fionwe1987 - 01/11/2009 04:30:21 AM 1094 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... Cannoli - 01/11/2009 08:41:58 AM 1074 Views
Re: Or logical trains of thought from fionwe1987.... fionwe1987 - 05/11/2009 02:40:16 AM 1058 Views
Re: It must be embarassing to be on the same side as such dingbats. Cannoli - 01/11/2009 12:31:10 AM 1020 Views
I have one question Sidious - 01/11/2009 07:12:23 AM 1051 Views
Capture, NOT kill, and she herself said the sa'angreal made that impossible. Cannoli - 01/11/2009 07:59:44 AM 1062 Views
Capture OR kill Sidious - 01/11/2009 09:12:08 AM 1114 Views
Re: The harbor chain incident was no less stupid because it helped her rho - 31/10/2009 04:31:29 PM 951 Views
Egwene isn't ta'veren Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:57:54 AM 948 Views
Re: Egwene isn't ta'veren rho - 31/10/2009 11:01:54 AM 974 Views
Events do seem to suggest otherwise. *NM* Legolas - 31/10/2009 04:40:42 PM 584 Views
I don't agree with all of that, but yes, Egwene's successes are a little too much. Legolas - 31/10/2009 04:30:32 PM 1127 Views
I too wondered when exactly Elaida took an overdose of crazy pills Asha'man - 01/11/2009 06:46:16 AM 1184 Views
I see Cannoll is still going strong about Egwene... Zeratul - 01/11/2009 08:40:17 PM 1036 Views
There were a few instances in the book where Egwene really bothered me. Kronin al'Sulc - 02/11/2009 12:54:10 AM 991 Views
Egwene's always been a hypocrite Zeratul - 02/11/2009 02:06:58 PM 1180 Views
Poor cannoli; give it a rest you ridiculous numsquatz NaClH2O - 07/11/2009 06:43:10 PM 928 Views
Yes, my long string of complaints about Sanderson has reached the limit. Cannoli - 09/11/2009 05:22:23 PM 984 Views
Re: Yes, my long string of complaints about Sanderson has reached the limit. Sidious - 10/11/2009 07:36:46 AM 1119 Views
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