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Graendal - maybe the deadliest Forsaken Sidious Send a noteboard - 05/11/2009 07:00:12 AM

I found Rand/Lews Therin's attitude to this Forsaken to be very interesting in this book. I've always thought that she was one of the most dangerous people in the world, but Lews Therin amplified this to a level I didn't expect.

The funny thing about this is that Lews Therin has absolutely no idea how to beat her. He knows that she can't be baited into a duel. He admits that she is more intelligent and crafty than he is. You can literally feel how every step he anticipates, he expects her to have already countered. Lews Therin is not subtle in saying that she knows more about the mind and humanity than any other person. He knows how to fight Rahvin or Sammael, or other Forsaken, but he can't fathom this one.

For this reason, he was forced to commit a mass atrocity to capture her. It was the one thing she wouldn't anticipate... or would she? Either way, although Lews Therin established his fear of falling into Semirhage's hands, he made a big scene about Graendal and her lethal nature.
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Graendal - maybe the deadliest Forsaken - 05/11/2009 07:00:12 AM 1946 Views
It has definitely been hinted - 05/11/2009 08:37:04 AM 997 Views
Graendal wasn't that deadly... - 05/11/2009 09:37:24 AM 1042 Views
I think she was - 05/11/2009 02:42:48 PM 886 Views
RJ still put her in the top category of the Forsaken.. - 05/11/2009 05:24:06 PM 973 Views
I think she's the most deadly and intelligent. The others are idiots, IMHO. - 05/11/2009 06:38:30 PM 906 Views
This whole Graendal is alive-idea - 05/11/2009 07:13:16 PM 936 Views
I'm divided on it.. - 05/11/2009 07:19:07 PM 859 Views
Here's the deal, though. Semirhage actions actually followed part of the theory to a tee. - 05/11/2009 07:21:21 PM 886 Views
Ah, anyway... - 05/11/2009 07:58:05 PM 802 Views
I agree with you - 05/11/2009 07:32:39 PM 885 Views
Exactly. - 05/11/2009 07:56:00 PM 1101 Views
I just don't understand the logic here - 05/11/2009 07:25:20 PM 918 Views
It's quite simple logic. - 05/11/2009 08:05:15 PM 972 Views
Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 09:41:53 PM 847 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 10:58:01 PM 792 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 11:58:24 PM 919 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 06/11/2009 02:22:51 PM 855 Views
It is a possibility. - 06/11/2009 03:43:22 AM 811 Views
Hmm, I have some problems with this - 06/11/2009 04:23:23 AM 929 Views
Some points no one addressed, a.k.a. Graendal lured Rand in... - 06/11/2009 05:16:12 AM 909 Views
Still no answers. I think I'm correct in feeling she is alive. *NM* - 06/11/2009 09:25:47 PM 348 Views
Re: Hmm, I have some problems with this - 06/11/2009 02:34:54 PM 890 Views
But... - 06/11/2009 02:56:32 PM 851 Views
Re: But... - 06/11/2009 03:07:02 PM 868 Views
Re: But... - 06/11/2009 03:53:41 PM 1035 Views
Re: But... - 06/11/2009 07:35:12 PM 811 Views
She's definitely the deadiest - 05/11/2009 02:05:23 PM 924 Views
I think she escaped, but it says something that he had to become worse than a Forsaken to do it - 05/11/2009 06:10:08 PM 844 Views
Eventually they will be reborn... - 05/11/2009 06:30:45 PM 767 Views
Thanks for reminding me. Oh well, then I'm stuck with the whole tearing apart the Pattern thing - 05/11/2009 06:44:35 PM 799 Views
Moiraine says. - 05/11/2009 07:02:10 PM 837 Views
In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 05/11/2009 07:14:44 PM 822 Views
Re: In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 05/11/2009 07:35:18 PM 920 Views
From what I keep hearing - 05/11/2009 08:58:57 PM 831 Views
I could well believe it - 05/11/2009 11:03:40 PM 782 Views
Re: In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 06/11/2009 09:00:01 PM 723 Views
I conceed to Rand's point - 05/11/2009 06:31:38 PM 921 Views
I don't think it's acceptable to tear apart the Pattern to save it. - 05/11/2009 06:40:22 PM 747 Views
True... - 05/11/2009 06:57:24 PM 792 Views
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Re: True... - 05/11/2009 07:35:06 PM 829 Views
Re: True... - 05/11/2009 08:07:42 PM 785 Views
I always thought she was the most dangerous of the chicks. - 06/11/2009 04:28:43 AM 924 Views
Difference between being dangerous and hard to kill--but, she is dangerous - 08/11/2009 02:19:34 AM 864 Views
Semirhage did far more destruction than Graendal. - 24/11/2009 06:09:18 PM 904 Views
Graendal also made chaos in Shara, though... - 24/11/2009 06:36:15 PM 704 Views
It's not surprising when you start looking at her parallels - 12/12/2009 01:03:25 AM 713 Views
Not to take away from Graendal, but my vote goes to Semirhage or Aginor - 16/12/2009 07:03:52 PM 713 Views
meh - 19/12/2009 11:56:12 PM 719 Views

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