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Graendal - maybe the deadliest Forsaken Sidious Send a noteboard - 05/11/2009 07:00:12 AM

I found Rand/Lews Therin's attitude to this Forsaken to be very interesting in this book. I've always thought that she was one of the most dangerous people in the world, but Lews Therin amplified this to a level I didn't expect.

The funny thing about this is that Lews Therin has absolutely no idea how to beat her. He knows that she can't be baited into a duel. He admits that she is more intelligent and crafty than he is. You can literally feel how every step he anticipates, he expects her to have already countered. Lews Therin is not subtle in saying that she knows more about the mind and humanity than any other person. He knows how to fight Rahvin or Sammael, or other Forsaken, but he can't fathom this one.

For this reason, he was forced to commit a mass atrocity to capture her. It was the one thing she wouldn't anticipate... or would she? Either way, although Lews Therin established his fear of falling into Semirhage's hands, he made a big scene about Graendal and her lethal nature.
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Graendal - maybe the deadliest Forsaken - 05/11/2009 07:00:12 AM 1976 Views
It has definitely been hinted - 05/11/2009 08:37:04 AM 1034 Views
Graendal wasn't that deadly... - 05/11/2009 09:37:24 AM 1070 Views
I think she was - 05/11/2009 02:42:48 PM 918 Views
RJ still put her in the top category of the Forsaken.. - 05/11/2009 05:24:06 PM 1006 Views
I think she's the most deadly and intelligent. The others are idiots, IMHO. - 05/11/2009 06:38:30 PM 931 Views
This whole Graendal is alive-idea - 05/11/2009 07:13:16 PM 965 Views
I'm divided on it.. - 05/11/2009 07:19:07 PM 885 Views
Here's the deal, though. Semirhage actions actually followed part of the theory to a tee. - 05/11/2009 07:21:21 PM 922 Views
Ah, anyway... - 05/11/2009 07:58:05 PM 822 Views
I agree with you - 05/11/2009 07:32:39 PM 923 Views
Exactly. - 05/11/2009 07:56:00 PM 1140 Views
I just don't understand the logic here - 05/11/2009 07:25:20 PM 966 Views
It's quite simple logic. - 05/11/2009 08:05:15 PM 1008 Views
Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 09:41:53 PM 875 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 10:58:01 PM 823 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 05/11/2009 11:58:24 PM 948 Views
Re: Then how did she do it? - 06/11/2009 02:22:51 PM 886 Views
It is a possibility. - 06/11/2009 03:43:22 AM 844 Views
Hmm, I have some problems with this - 06/11/2009 04:23:23 AM 970 Views
Some points no one addressed, a.k.a. Graendal lured Rand in... - 06/11/2009 05:16:12 AM 940 Views
Still no answers. I think I'm correct in feeling she is alive. *NM* - 06/11/2009 09:25:47 PM 362 Views
Re: Hmm, I have some problems with this - 06/11/2009 02:34:54 PM 927 Views
But... - 06/11/2009 02:56:32 PM 881 Views
Re: But... - 06/11/2009 03:07:02 PM 903 Views
Re: But... - 06/11/2009 03:53:41 PM 1071 Views
Re: But... - 06/11/2009 07:35:12 PM 842 Views
She's definitely the deadiest - 05/11/2009 02:05:23 PM 956 Views
I think she escaped, but it says something that he had to become worse than a Forsaken to do it - 05/11/2009 06:10:08 PM 879 Views
Eventually they will be reborn... - 05/11/2009 06:30:45 PM 793 Views
Thanks for reminding me. Oh well, then I'm stuck with the whole tearing apart the Pattern thing - 05/11/2009 06:44:35 PM 833 Views
Moiraine says. - 05/11/2009 07:02:10 PM 874 Views
In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 05/11/2009 07:14:44 PM 863 Views
Re: In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 05/11/2009 07:35:18 PM 959 Views
From what I keep hearing - 05/11/2009 08:58:57 PM 866 Views
I could well believe it - 05/11/2009 11:03:40 PM 827 Views
Re: In this case, Moiraine's comment doesn't really matter. - 06/11/2009 09:00:01 PM 758 Views
I conceed to Rand's point - 05/11/2009 06:31:38 PM 949 Views
I don't think it's acceptable to tear apart the Pattern to save it. - 05/11/2009 06:40:22 PM 774 Views
True... - 05/11/2009 06:57:24 PM 818 Views
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Re: True... - 05/11/2009 07:35:06 PM 854 Views
Re: True... - 05/11/2009 08:07:42 PM 829 Views
I always thought she was the most dangerous of the chicks. - 06/11/2009 04:28:43 AM 967 Views
Difference between being dangerous and hard to kill--but, she is dangerous - 08/11/2009 02:19:34 AM 890 Views
Semirhage did far more destruction than Graendal. - 24/11/2009 06:09:18 PM 941 Views
Graendal also made chaos in Shara, though... - 24/11/2009 06:36:15 PM 735 Views
It's not surprising when you start looking at her parallels - 12/12/2009 01:03:25 AM 739 Views
Not to take away from Graendal, but my vote goes to Semirhage or Aginor - 16/12/2009 07:03:52 PM 738 Views
meh - 19/12/2009 11:56:12 PM 747 Views

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