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Re: Not outraged on their behalf... Knightscape Send a noteboard - 13/11/2009 10:37:04 PM
Because Rand never told them of his problem, did not tell them of his plan.


They had as long as Rand did to formulate a plan to kill Graendal.

The pattern wanted him to do this.


That is, again, bull shit. The forsaken can now claim immunity for their crimes saying that the Pattern wanted them to do this too!


The forsaken are not ta'veren, they are not controlled directly by the pattern. Rand is controlled directly by the pattern. If you are going to call another argument bull shit, then you really should think out your own arguments first.

If the pattern didn't want him to do this, than the pattern would have intervened. (Rand gets ready to balefire Graendal and the castle, just as he is about to complete the weave a pidgeon drops dead and falls on his arm knocking the Choendal Kal from his grasp)


Yeah right. I think I know I've won the argument when dead pigeons enter the defense.


If you can not defend your argument even when dead pegeons enter the discussion then you have truly lost the argument.
All good things come to those who wait.
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Who performs the worst atrocity in this book: Egwene or Rand? (A good Cannoli question) Matrimony Cauthon - 13/11/2009 06:22:50 PM 2207 Views
Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured Lordling - 13/11/2009 07:04:02 PM 934 Views
That doesn't make her right, it makes her a coward *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:53:50 PM 530 Views
Your hatred and judgment of Egwene is obsessive and at times unreasonable. Like right now. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 14/11/2009 03:56:34 AM 496 Views
In this he his reasonable...I think he is mostly wrong with the statement, but it is reasonable *NM* RabidWombat - 14/11/2009 04:08:35 AM 379 Views
Wrong and unreasonable. krassos - 14/11/2009 11:07:16 PM 950 Views
It's not herself she's sacrificing *NM* guttering flame - 15/11/2009 06:09:02 AM 492 Views
"Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured" krassos - 15/11/2009 02:45:21 PM 742 Views
Re: "Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured" guttering flame - 15/11/2009 03:14:27 PM 900 Views
Because most people often get acclimated to being beaten 3 or more times a day. krassos - 17/11/2009 01:02:37 AM 776 Views
When teenagers were physically punished in schools guttering flame - 18/11/2009 05:52:54 AM 898 Views
Teenagers at school didn't spend hours a day getting spanked. Repeatedly. For weeks straight. krassos - 20/11/2009 02:13:38 AM 727 Views
Egwene also killed Aes Sedai who belonged to the shadow by the dozens guttering flame - 13/11/2009 07:19:14 PM 910 Views
Re: Egwene also killed Aes Sedai who belonged to the shadow by the dozens Night Walker - 13/11/2009 07:25:14 PM 855 Views
Forcible turning is not the only method guttering flame - 13/11/2009 08:28:08 PM 955 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:43:53 PM 977 Views
The point is guttering flame - 13/11/2009 11:00:58 PM 714 Views
They were tried. *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:23:45 AM 351 Views
Mock trials guttering flame - 14/11/2009 08:06:14 AM 815 Views
Proof? fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 09:09:14 AM 744 Views
That's the impression I got from Sheriam's 'trial' guttering flame - 14/11/2009 09:44:09 AM 811 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 06:55:54 PM 809 Views
And if Verin had been caught, she would have deserved death. Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:55:13 PM 907 Views
Ordinarily, I would disagree... RabidWombat - 14/11/2009 04:20:28 AM 954 Views
Re: Ordinarily, I would disagree... Cannoli - 14/11/2009 08:04:37 AM 848 Views
Except for the fact that she never served the Dark One. She was Black Ajah in name only. krassos - 21/11/2009 04:16:48 PM 727 Views
Not true. Verin did in fact serve the DO. She admited as much darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:28:56 AM 759 Views
They had trials. No mention of them presenting such evidence. *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:54:23 PM 363 Views
Forced turnings should be killed too Sidious - 15/11/2009 07:06:43 AM 771 Views
Sad but true darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 05:05:08 PM 738 Views
Based on those two actions... entyti - 13/11/2009 08:01:32 PM 922 Views
How was she going to protect the Tower and occupants then? NaClH2O - 13/11/2009 08:02:31 PM 836 Views
There is a difference between collateral damage and targeting your own people! *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:56:10 PM 380 Views
She did not target her own people... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:39:14 AM 812 Views
You seem to be contradicting yourself here guttering flame - 14/11/2009 07:52:07 AM 830 Views
Because they were indistinct specks high in the sky? *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 09:11:15 AM 358 Views
Considering the power she had in her hands guttering flame - 14/11/2009 09:52:10 AM 1116 Views
That's ridiculous... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 07:07:11 PM 839 Views
Re: That's ridiculous... guttering flame - 14/11/2009 07:21:44 PM 799 Views
typical cannoli double speak, she wasn't targeting her own people NaClH2O - 14/11/2009 01:46:10 AM 2394 Views
Nothing wrong with that. Cannoli - 14/11/2009 08:11:15 AM 868 Views
She does have first hand experience TheCrownless - 14/11/2009 07:52:20 PM 865 Views
Dozens of dark sisters together...trapped like rats... krassos - 18/11/2009 12:29:19 AM 773 Views
Re: Who performs the worst atrocity in this book: Egwene or Rand? (A good Cannoli question) randfandom - 13/11/2009 08:16:29 PM 840 Views
Neither is an atrocity... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:17:08 PM 1042 Views
this ^ *NM* Deadsy - 13/11/2009 08:34:10 PM 324 Views
Re: Neither is an atrocity... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 08:59:30 PM 850 Views
Bull Sh!t! fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:08:00 PM 899 Views
Come on now... Rand al'Thor - 13/11/2009 09:13:50 PM 820 Views
Not outraged on their behalf... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:26:11 PM 808 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 09:56:01 PM 724 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:08:06 PM 754 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:37:04 PM 808 Views
fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:45:57 PM 730 Views
Re: Knightscape - 13/11/2009 11:16:58 PM 801 Views
Re: fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:34:49 AM 699 Views
Re: Knightscape - 14/11/2009 01:46:51 AM 778 Views
Yes your argument is very much Bull Sh!t Knightscape - 13/11/2009 09:15:17 PM 873 Views
So... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:27:11 PM 824 Views
Re: So... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:07:15 PM 716 Views
Not at all... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:09:43 PM 747 Views
Re: Not at all... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:54:14 PM 723 Views
Re: Not at all... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:36:36 AM 727 Views
Break out the inflatable balloon swords and have at it already! Ryan - 14/11/2009 02:14:47 AM 758 Views
Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/11/2009 09:17:14 PM 884 Views
Re: Rand. Dragonsworn - 13/11/2009 10:56:04 PM 982 Views
But that is not her choice to make. She has NO right to decide that for anyone. *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:57:03 PM 374 Views
No, she had no right to make that choice Ryan - 14/11/2009 03:54:35 AM 711 Views
Yes, it was her choice to make, and she is now responsible for the consequences. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/11/2009 06:24:46 PM 1143 Views
Since Rand did not perform any atrocities, Egwene by default (Existing) Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:53:22 PM 948 Views
Its the difference between lodlom - 14/11/2009 02:59:42 AM 764 Views
Cannoli mentioned already - after balefire you can live again Skeeve the Great - 20/11/2009 03:38:06 AM 708 Views
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