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And if Verin had been caught, she would have deserved death. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 13/11/2009 11:55:13 PM
The thing is though; we have never seen a way to reverse this type of recruiting. Even though those people didn't choose that path, they are now loyal to the DO, probably more then most those who willing went over.


As Verin herself show us. There are doubtless many who joined for fear for their friends or made the decisions to regret it later. Sheriam for example seemed an unwilling supporter for the end of all things even if she had at one time joined them to get faster advancements in the Tower.
None of those is a good reason or acceptable mitigation for serving the Dark One.
Cannoli
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless

“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
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Who performs the worst atrocity in this book: Egwene or Rand? (A good Cannoli question) Matrimony Cauthon - 13/11/2009 06:22:50 PM 2362 Views
Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured Lordling - 13/11/2009 07:04:02 PM 1078 Views
That doesn't make her right, it makes her a coward *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:53:50 PM 594 Views
Your hatred and judgment of Egwene is obsessive and at times unreasonable. Like right now. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 14/11/2009 03:56:34 AM 571 Views
In this he his reasonable...I think he is mostly wrong with the statement, but it is reasonable *NM* RabidWombat - 14/11/2009 04:08:35 AM 446 Views
Wrong and unreasonable. krassos - 14/11/2009 11:07:16 PM 1105 Views
It's not herself she's sacrificing *NM* guttering flame - 15/11/2009 06:09:02 AM 548 Views
"Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured" krassos - 15/11/2009 02:45:21 PM 877 Views
Re: "Given the chance, Egwene would certainly have chosen death herself had she been captured" guttering flame - 15/11/2009 03:14:27 PM 1035 Views
Because most people often get acclimated to being beaten 3 or more times a day. krassos - 17/11/2009 01:02:37 AM 935 Views
When teenagers were physically punished in schools guttering flame - 18/11/2009 05:52:54 AM 1054 Views
Teenagers at school didn't spend hours a day getting spanked. Repeatedly. For weeks straight. krassos - 20/11/2009 02:13:38 AM 847 Views
Egwene also killed Aes Sedai who belonged to the shadow by the dozens guttering flame - 13/11/2009 07:19:14 PM 1045 Views
Re: Egwene also killed Aes Sedai who belonged to the shadow by the dozens Night Walker - 13/11/2009 07:25:14 PM 998 Views
Forcible turning is not the only method guttering flame - 13/11/2009 08:28:08 PM 1108 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:43:53 PM 1113 Views
The point is guttering flame - 13/11/2009 11:00:58 PM 848 Views
They were tried. *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:23:45 AM 414 Views
Mock trials guttering flame - 14/11/2009 08:06:14 AM 958 Views
Proof? fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 09:09:14 AM 880 Views
That's the impression I got from Sheriam's 'trial' guttering flame - 14/11/2009 09:44:09 AM 945 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 06:55:54 PM 971 Views
And if Verin had been caught, she would have deserved death. Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:55:13 PM 1047 Views
Ordinarily, I would disagree... RabidWombat - 14/11/2009 04:20:28 AM 1098 Views
Re: Ordinarily, I would disagree... Cannoli - 14/11/2009 08:04:37 AM 990 Views
Except for the fact that she never served the Dark One. She was Black Ajah in name only. krassos - 21/11/2009 04:16:48 PM 876 Views
Not true. Verin did in fact serve the DO. She admited as much darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:28:56 AM 884 Views
They had trials. No mention of them presenting such evidence. *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:54:23 PM 425 Views
Forced turnings should be killed too Sidious - 15/11/2009 07:06:43 AM 920 Views
Sad but true darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 05:05:08 PM 874 Views
Based on those two actions... entyti - 13/11/2009 08:01:32 PM 1080 Views
How was she going to protect the Tower and occupants then? NaClH2O - 13/11/2009 08:02:31 PM 984 Views
There is a difference between collateral damage and targeting your own people! *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:56:10 PM 445 Views
She did not target her own people... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:39:14 AM 950 Views
You seem to be contradicting yourself here guttering flame - 14/11/2009 07:52:07 AM 965 Views
Because they were indistinct specks high in the sky? *NM* fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 09:11:15 AM 421 Views
Considering the power she had in her hands guttering flame - 14/11/2009 09:52:10 AM 1272 Views
That's ridiculous... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 07:07:11 PM 1006 Views
Re: That's ridiculous... guttering flame - 14/11/2009 07:21:44 PM 959 Views
typical cannoli double speak, she wasn't targeting her own people NaClH2O - 14/11/2009 01:46:10 AM 2531 Views
Nothing wrong with that. Cannoli - 14/11/2009 08:11:15 AM 1010 Views
She does have first hand experience TheCrownless - 14/11/2009 07:52:20 PM 1002 Views
Dozens of dark sisters together...trapped like rats... krassos - 18/11/2009 12:29:19 AM 926 Views
Re: Who performs the worst atrocity in this book: Egwene or Rand? (A good Cannoli question) randfandom - 13/11/2009 08:16:29 PM 970 Views
Neither is an atrocity... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:17:08 PM 1191 Views
this ^ *NM* Deadsy - 13/11/2009 08:34:10 PM 386 Views
Re: Neither is an atrocity... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 08:59:30 PM 973 Views
Bull Sh!t! fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:08:00 PM 1038 Views
Come on now... Rand al'Thor - 13/11/2009 09:13:50 PM 958 Views
Not outraged on their behalf... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:26:11 PM 954 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 09:56:01 PM 863 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:08:06 PM 890 Views
Re: Not outraged on their behalf... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:37:04 PM 942 Views
fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:45:57 PM 866 Views
Re: Knightscape - 13/11/2009 11:16:58 PM 942 Views
Re: fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:34:49 AM 832 Views
Re: Knightscape - 14/11/2009 01:46:51 AM 909 Views
Yes your argument is very much Bull Sh!t Knightscape - 13/11/2009 09:15:17 PM 1011 Views
So... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:27:11 PM 960 Views
Re: So... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:07:15 PM 847 Views
Not at all... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 10:09:43 PM 883 Views
Re: Not at all... Knightscape - 13/11/2009 10:54:14 PM 863 Views
Re: Not at all... fionwe1987 - 14/11/2009 12:36:36 AM 873 Views
Break out the inflatable balloon swords and have at it already! Ryan - 14/11/2009 02:14:47 AM 886 Views
Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/11/2009 09:17:14 PM 1019 Views
Re: Rand. Dragonsworn - 13/11/2009 10:56:04 PM 1173 Views
But that is not her choice to make. She has NO right to decide that for anyone. *NM* Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:57:03 PM 439 Views
No, she had no right to make that choice Ryan - 14/11/2009 03:54:35 AM 838 Views
Yes, it was her choice to make, and she is now responsible for the consequences. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/11/2009 06:24:46 PM 1300 Views
Since Rand did not perform any atrocities, Egwene by default (Existing) Cannoli - 13/11/2009 11:53:22 PM 1097 Views
Its the difference between lodlom - 14/11/2009 02:59:42 AM 925 Views
Cannoli mentioned already - after balefire you can live again Skeeve the Great - 20/11/2009 03:38:06 AM 839 Views
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