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They are politicians at heart... everynametaken Send a noteboard - 17/11/2009 05:31:41 AM
I'm half way through tGS and something popped into my mind.....what is the point of the Aes Sedai? Are they comic relief? Are they just filler?

So, yes and yes. :D

Have the Aes Sedai contributed anything major to the storyline? Have they discovered any knowledge about the Last Battle to help Rand? Have they helped with any of the conflicts among nations/factions to help bring order to Randland prior to the Last Battle? Have they even captured or killed a Forsaken? They just keep fighting among themselves.....what's the point!

They've screwed a lot of obvious stuff up.
Why would they ever choose past history as an example of what might happen now?
Nope, they've just exacerbated problems in other nations.
Neg-a-tivo on the actually capturing a bad guy/girl (well I guess Nynaeve capturing Moghedien is technically a win, but she wasn't Aes Sedai at the time was she? But, eventually they lost the two they had!
Partisanship is a nasty thing. :P

Thoughts?

See! Perfect politicians! :D


Hmm, my repely had nm for some reason.
But wine was the great assassin of both tradition and propriety...
-Brandon Sanderson, The Way of Kings
This message last edited by everynametaken on 17/11/2009 at 06:59:49 AM
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Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:18:52 AM 1333 Views
They are politicians at heart... everynametaken - 17/11/2009 05:31:41 AM 898 Views
You remember Moiraine, right? And Cadsuane? *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/11/2009 05:32:50 AM 450 Views
Cadsuane hasn't done anything and Moiraine.....you mean that person from 7 books ago? trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:51:16 AM 668 Views
That's individual AS, not AS as a group. *NM* ajfurst - 17/11/2009 06:23:52 AM 316 Views
What use have the Andorans been then? As a nation, not individuals. *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/11/2009 06:53:35 AM 324 Views
Not much - of all plots in WOT I wish Daughter Heir had meant Heir, not Daughter of the Heir *NM* ajfurst - 18/11/2009 08:54:18 AM 318 Views
She is the Heir, not the daughter of the heir! *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/11/2009 05:24:24 PM 334 Views
As we found out, in painfully slow manner, she was neither! *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:31:02 PM 318 Views
Short answer: nope. Marshall - 17/11/2009 05:51:01 AM 843 Views
Good answer.....so why are so many stories devoted to those that are only indirectly..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:54:10 AM 652 Views
Wonderful response, and I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/11/2009 08:18:30 PM 664 Views
rather.. urizen - 18/11/2009 08:32:10 AM 784 Views
I think those critiques are overblown and not based on a fair analaysis of WoT History RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/11/2009 03:15:12 PM 730 Views
Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. Onarishma - 18/11/2009 05:04:58 PM 695 Views
Re: Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. urizen - 18/11/2009 09:16:04 PM 682 Views
Their Tower allegience was always superior to their Empire allegience but was Bonwhine Onarishma - 23/11/2009 02:29:57 AM 604 Views
But then.. urizen - 23/11/2009 08:30:37 AM 719 Views
Kind of Sort of fairfax - 17/11/2009 07:05:51 AM 657 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... Onarishma - 17/11/2009 07:50:48 AM 617 Views
AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims redhand - 17/11/2009 09:31:24 AM 2053 Views
Re: AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims Watcher - 17/11/2009 12:44:35 PM 1423 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... LewsTherin10 - 17/11/2009 02:36:33 PM 683 Views
Always help or contribute.....never do or lead..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 04:23:04 PM 626 Views
if that internal silliness is not resolved the power of a united front will remain compromised. *NM* Onarishma - 17/11/2009 11:11:54 PM 368 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:48:27 PM 605 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... LewsTherin10 - 19/11/2009 09:14:14 PM 839 Views
You're asking the wrong question HyogaRott - 17/11/2009 05:35:06 PM 671 Views
You could ask the exact same questions about the Ashaman, or the Aiel, or the SeaFolk, or any group NaClH2O - 18/11/2009 11:49:25 AM 634 Views
SeaFolk yes, Aiel or Ashamen no.....stupid reply.....try again if you would like. *NM* trzaska2000 - 18/11/2009 05:56:54 PM 390 Views
Scored using your words NaClH2O - 18/11/2009 06:33:31 PM 766 Views
Slow down Professor.....the AS have killed 1 Forsaken..... trzaska2000 - 18/11/2009 10:59:39 PM 617 Views
I think he's counting Nynaeve and Egwene *NM* Marshall - 18/11/2009 11:21:20 PM 310 Views
So who killed Lanfear? *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/11/2009 11:59:27 PM 378 Views
You mean Lanfear/Cyndane.....nobody..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 12:04:10 AM 653 Views
They reduced her in power. TheCrownless - 19/11/2009 12:39:17 AM 576 Views
Perhaps 1/32th of a point.....she's still almost as powerful as any other woman..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 01:00:26 AM 657 Views
So? fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 01:33:56 AM 603 Views
So you've decided to redefine words now? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 01:42:48 AM 550 Views
Have you read the books? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 01:39:37 AM 594 Views
I will type more slowly.....the AS have killed 1 and only 1 Forsaken..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 04:00:59 AM 597 Views
So? fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 05:00:13 AM 633 Views
Oh dear! NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 11:51:17 AM 562 Views
Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 03:04:44 PM 525 Views
Re: Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 03:11:36 PM 720 Views
This is silly guttering flame - 19/11/2009 07:29:33 PM 567 Views
There is no misrepresentation NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 07:45:18 PM 581 Views
The point I made is guttering flame - 19/11/2009 07:48:52 PM 565 Views
Are we speaking english? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:07:45 PM 773 Views
Not really BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:19:49 PM 652 Views
Re: There is no misrepresentation BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 07:49:29 PM 703 Views
OK NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:15:08 PM 638 Views
No idea BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:17:09 PM 613 Views
OK fair enough, I do too, NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:31:11 PM 738 Views
Well what do you think of BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:56:38 PM 846 Views
And another point NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 03:05:45 PM 543 Views
For the sake of argument, though BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 03:49:23 PM 609 Views
OK fair enough NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 07:56:00 PM 594 Views
rAndy aL - 19/11/2009 12:06:02 AM 714 Views
There isn't much in this series I would call "filler" - seriously? trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 12:11:14 AM 563 Views
You're bothering to discuss a series with three books of "filler"- seriously? *NM* fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 01:34:43 AM 284 Views
Just skipped over them.....no big deal slick..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 04:02:57 AM 585 Views
Yeah right... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 04:58:54 AM 541 Views
Yes, seriously rAndy aL - 20/11/2009 01:11:18 AM 647 Views
It's kind of amusing to see the prima donas bow and scrape before each other while the world ends. BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:37:42 PM 590 Views
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