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If Rahvin were stronger... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 18/11/2009 08:59:32 PM
I see no reason why Rahvin would say he matched well with Sammael if he was actually stronger!

And you're making too much of the levels. Graendal can face down Rand, according to Rand himself, and she's weaker than him.

I think these upper strength levels are not so far apart. Yes, there is a perceptible difference between the Forsaken, but even the weakest can be an honest contest to the strongest. None of them are negligible.
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Thanks to Sanderson, we now have a DEFINITIVE female Forsaken strength list... - 18/11/2009 05:56:58 PM 2121 Views
Sounds good - 18/11/2009 06:08:15 PM 1037 Views
Re: Sounds good - 18/11/2009 06:12:53 PM 1078 Views
Re: Someryn - 18/11/2009 06:20:44 PM 1081 Views
I acknowledge that possibility... - 18/11/2009 06:24:30 PM 952 Views
Someryn implies that Graendal is stronger. - 19/11/2009 01:51:31 PM 1052 Views
Excellent point...I'd forgotten about that... - 19/11/2009 02:00:30 PM 968 Views
As I understand it... - 18/11/2009 06:23:26 PM 1047 Views
My view is that the new list is just a revised one, after RJ changed his mind on some things... - 18/11/2009 06:28:53 PM 1102 Views
Agreed. - 18/11/2009 06:31:22 PM 902 Views
I suppose that's possible. *NM* - 18/11/2009 06:31:42 PM 705 Views
I agree with this interpretation on the new vs. old list - 18/11/2009 07:13:02 PM 993 Views
Re: Sounds good - 18/11/2009 07:11:17 PM 912 Views
Also, a couple more questions, if I may... - 18/11/2009 07:18:50 PM 892 Views
Re: Also, a couple more questions, if I may... - 18/11/2009 07:23:45 PM 914 Views
One problem... - 18/11/2009 06:10:06 PM 1094 Views
No... - 18/11/2009 06:14:48 PM 1002 Views
That's not a problem. - 18/11/2009 06:31:37 PM 950 Views
Why on earth would there be multiple restrictions on Cyndane's strength? - 18/11/2009 06:47:56 PM 852 Views
Sorry buddy - 18/11/2009 07:36:00 PM 978 Views
Re: Sorry buddy - 18/11/2009 09:49:01 PM 876 Views
But Nynaeve and Mogheiden were of equal strength - 18/11/2009 06:15:52 PM 1147 Views
Nynaeve matched Moghedien when Nynaeve was not close to her full potential yet... - 18/11/2009 06:19:07 PM 1182 Views
I agree...and I have a question regarding Moghedien. - 18/11/2009 06:30:07 PM 981 Views
Cyndane has to be above Graendal. *NM* - 18/11/2009 06:33:16 PM 552 Views
You're right. I'll post new list below. *NM* - 18/11/2009 06:39:36 PM 576 Views
Was she? Nyn was mid20s and a wilder, I thought she had reached full strength - 18/11/2009 08:00:24 PM 1020 Views
She really hasn't had that much time channelling though. - 18/11/2009 08:07:31 PM 697 Views
Wilders rarely reach their full potential if they're blocked. *NM* - 18/11/2009 08:43:30 PM 592 Views
I know the Cleansing forced her a bit. - 18/11/2009 08:44:59 PM 975 Views
That's been said before- anyone know where it says that in the text? - 19/11/2009 05:53:50 AM 764 Views
More or less agreed. I was right about Nynaeve! - 18/11/2009 06:29:27 PM 893 Views
IMO... - 18/11/2009 06:37:19 PM 1013 Views
I don't know... - 18/11/2009 06:56:10 PM 887 Views
I still think Alivia is below Lanfear's strength level... - 18/11/2009 06:59:01 PM 1192 Views
That just doesn't make sense... - 18/11/2009 07:02:17 PM 1006 Views
I agree that Lanfear and Alivia are tied. *NM* - 18/11/2009 07:06:19 PM 577 Views
All of my instincts indeed argue that 4 of the Forsaken CANNOT be below Nynaeve, but... - 18/11/2009 07:06:25 PM 845 Views
But why doesn't it make sense? - 18/11/2009 08:47:42 PM 744 Views
I don't think... - 18/11/2009 07:08:09 PM 1076 Views
Damane never recieve special status... - 18/11/2009 08:52:32 PM 865 Views
Good point... - 18/11/2009 09:00:51 PM 901 Views
Thing is... - 18/11/2009 09:10:45 PM 944 Views
My point was... - 18/11/2009 09:05:28 PM 945 Views
I agree *NM* - 18/11/2009 09:10:46 PM 540 Views
If Tuon had the strongest... - 18/11/2009 09:12:22 PM 852 Views
Sera must be stronger... - 18/11/2009 09:25:00 PM 850 Views
There's no reason to be certain about it... - 18/11/2009 09:28:26 PM 899 Views
Well, the Bloodknives are precisely Tuon's tools - 18/11/2009 09:32:46 PM 854 Views
There are SIX women stronger than Nynaeve, and at least five are accounted for... - 18/11/2009 09:46:28 PM 911 Views
There are six stronger women named on the list - 19/11/2009 11:40:52 AM 914 Views
I'm not ignoring Sera! - 19/11/2009 06:13:43 PM 778 Views
You misunderstand me... - 19/11/2009 06:16:31 PM 871 Views
I doesn't make "sense". Let's leave it... - 19/11/2009 06:19:52 PM 844 Views
But Alivia (while strong in the OP) is an old fraile lady on her deathbed. *NM* - 18/11/2009 09:41:33 PM 569 Views
Pardon? Don't understand this really. *NM* - 19/11/2009 11:45:21 AM 412 Views
You keep saying Alivia was "a common damane" - 28/11/2009 08:58:42 PM 746 Views
You were right about Nynaeve, I was right about Graendal! Well done! - 18/11/2009 06:37:42 PM 993 Views
Yes. This is one WoT debate coming to a close... - 18/11/2009 06:54:06 PM 768 Views
I have one problem with your list. - 18/11/2009 06:36:02 PM 966 Views
RJ said the Forsaken ALWAYS overrate themselves... - 18/11/2009 06:54:45 PM 824 Views
Mesaana is cold and calculating. - 18/11/2009 07:03:49 PM 865 Views
I'm sorry, but I find it mindblowing that you find this mindblowing. - 18/11/2009 06:36:37 PM 901 Views
Some of us have been debating this for 5 years on Wotmania... - 18/11/2009 06:57:08 PM 966 Views
I think it goes like this: - 18/11/2009 06:53:07 PM 908 Views
There is a side effect to all of this rearrangement...we may have to rethink the wonder girls. - 18/11/2009 07:04:17 PM 968 Views
We'll have to re-read the sections where Moghedien is captured. - 18/11/2009 07:08:07 PM 866 Views
Damn. That's a thought I definitely DON'T relish. Thankfully... - 18/11/2009 07:09:18 PM 894 Views
Where does she say this? - 18/11/2009 08:54:39 PM 905 Views
No, she explicitly refers to herself vs Moghedien... - 18/11/2009 09:01:53 PM 902 Views
Here are the quotes... - 18/11/2009 09:24:24 PM 919 Views
Oh come on. You're totally twisting that passage to suit your argument... - 18/11/2009 09:54:56 PM 809 Views
I could say the same... - 18/11/2009 10:50:44 PM 825 Views
So let me get this straight... - 19/11/2009 06:44:03 AM 846 Views
No... - 19/11/2009 07:37:29 AM 902 Views
Look at it this way... - 19/11/2009 10:23:06 AM 876 Views
Dude, there were other quotes... - 19/11/2009 06:15:32 PM 774 Views
What about Sammael? The debate about Sammael and Rahvin has been decided now too. - 18/11/2009 08:03:35 PM 939 Views
Totally disagree... - 18/11/2009 08:08:34 PM 995 Views
Re: Totally disagree... - 18/11/2009 08:22:07 PM 869 Views
Males likely go like this... - 18/11/2009 08:27:27 PM 828 Views
Dude, Rand is scared of Graendal... - 18/11/2009 09:05:28 PM 841 Views
Disagree... - 18/11/2009 09:09:45 PM 958 Views
Disagree back... for the last time though... - 18/11/2009 09:39:25 PM 802 Views
About the top 6... - 18/11/2009 10:08:37 PM 896 Views
And One Power Battles turn political on a regualr basis, do they? - 18/11/2009 10:54:35 PM 929 Views
That's ridiculous... - 19/11/2009 07:19:08 AM 817 Views
Re: That's ridiculous... - 19/11/2009 08:08:14 AM 858 Views
Well... - 19/11/2009 10:29:45 AM 857 Views
This is getting idiotic... - 19/11/2009 06:19:08 PM 854 Views
Re: Dude, Rand is scared of Graendal... - 10/12/2010 07:31:18 PM 853 Views
If Rahvin were stronger... - 18/11/2009 08:59:32 PM 819 Views
Disagreement - 19/11/2009 01:39:49 AM 960 Views
Some more from Brandon... - 19/11/2009 04:29:41 AM 859 Views
So we're back where we started? - 19/11/2009 04:56:36 AM 665 Views
Re: So we're back where we started? - 19/11/2009 05:18:15 AM 948 Views
Someone must ask him: Is Cyndane one of the 6 above Nynaeve. - 19/11/2009 05:35:10 AM 811 Views
My opinion: down this path lies insanity. - 19/11/2009 02:53:59 PM 894 Views
Thoughts - 19/11/2009 04:55:09 AM 958 Views

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