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rAndy aL Send a noteboard - 19/11/2009 12:06:02 AM
I'm half way through tGS and something popped into my mind.....what is the point of the Aes Sedai? Are they comic relief? Are they just filler?


They are more than any one thing. There isn't much in this series I would call "filler".

Have the Aes Sedai contributed anything major to the storyline? Have they discovered any knowledge about the Last Battle to help Rand? Have they helped with any of the conflicts among nations/factions to help bring order to Randland prior to the Last Battle? Have they even captured or killed a Forsaken? They just keep fighting among themselves.....what's the point!


And what exactly do you think the storyline is?

The Aes Sedai don't usually do anything as a whole. Individual groups of Aes Sedai have helped Rand with various things you listed above, but Rand has had no use for 100 channelers who can't use the Power as a weapon.

In fact, the Aes Sedai have been major antagonists in the series! Maybe you should be asking what they have done to hurt Rand (quite a lot).

Thoughts?


You are asking the wrong question.
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Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:18:52 AM 1412 Views
They are politicians at heart... everynametaken - 17/11/2009 05:31:41 AM 991 Views
You remember Moiraine, right? And Cadsuane? *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/11/2009 05:32:50 AM 486 Views
Cadsuane hasn't done anything and Moiraine.....you mean that person from 7 books ago? trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:51:16 AM 759 Views
That's individual AS, not AS as a group. *NM* ajfurst - 17/11/2009 06:23:52 AM 359 Views
What use have the Andorans been then? As a nation, not individuals. *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/11/2009 06:53:35 AM 389 Views
Not much - of all plots in WOT I wish Daughter Heir had meant Heir, not Daughter of the Heir *NM* ajfurst - 18/11/2009 08:54:18 AM 366 Views
She is the Heir, not the daughter of the heir! *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/11/2009 05:24:24 PM 374 Views
As we found out, in painfully slow manner, she was neither! *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:31:02 PM 358 Views
Short answer: nope. Marshall - 17/11/2009 05:51:01 AM 936 Views
Good answer.....so why are so many stories devoted to those that are only indirectly..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 05:54:10 AM 732 Views
Wonderful response, and I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/11/2009 08:18:30 PM 758 Views
rather.. urizen - 18/11/2009 08:32:10 AM 866 Views
I think those critiques are overblown and not based on a fair analaysis of WoT History RugbyPlayingAshaman - 18/11/2009 03:15:12 PM 839 Views
Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. Onarishma - 18/11/2009 05:04:58 PM 788 Views
Re: Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. urizen - 18/11/2009 09:16:04 PM 767 Views
Their Tower allegience was always superior to their Empire allegience but was Bonwhine Onarishma - 23/11/2009 02:29:57 AM 710 Views
But then.. urizen - 23/11/2009 08:30:37 AM 804 Views
Kind of Sort of fairfax - 17/11/2009 07:05:51 AM 751 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... Onarishma - 17/11/2009 07:50:48 AM 705 Views
AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims redhand - 17/11/2009 09:31:24 AM 2146 Views
Re: AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims Watcher - 17/11/2009 12:44:35 PM 1509 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... LewsTherin10 - 17/11/2009 02:36:33 PM 782 Views
Always help or contribute.....never do or lead..... trzaska2000 - 17/11/2009 04:23:04 PM 707 Views
if that internal silliness is not resolved the power of a united front will remain compromised. *NM* Onarishma - 17/11/2009 11:11:54 PM 408 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:48:27 PM 691 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... LewsTherin10 - 19/11/2009 09:14:14 PM 944 Views
You're asking the wrong question HyogaRott - 17/11/2009 05:35:06 PM 757 Views
You could ask the exact same questions about the Ashaman, or the Aiel, or the SeaFolk, or any group NaClH2O - 18/11/2009 11:49:25 AM 733 Views
SeaFolk yes, Aiel or Ashamen no.....stupid reply.....try again if you would like. *NM* trzaska2000 - 18/11/2009 05:56:54 PM 431 Views
Scored using your words NaClH2O - 18/11/2009 06:33:31 PM 855 Views
Slow down Professor.....the AS have killed 1 Forsaken..... trzaska2000 - 18/11/2009 10:59:39 PM 707 Views
I think he's counting Nynaeve and Egwene *NM* Marshall - 18/11/2009 11:21:20 PM 345 Views
So who killed Lanfear? *NM* fionwe1987 - 18/11/2009 11:59:27 PM 469 Views
You mean Lanfear/Cyndane.....nobody..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 12:04:10 AM 748 Views
They reduced her in power. TheCrownless - 19/11/2009 12:39:17 AM 662 Views
Perhaps 1/32th of a point.....she's still almost as powerful as any other woman..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 01:00:26 AM 742 Views
So? fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 01:33:56 AM 688 Views
So you've decided to redefine words now? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 01:42:48 AM 631 Views
Have you read the books? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 01:39:37 AM 680 Views
I will type more slowly.....the AS have killed 1 and only 1 Forsaken..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 04:00:59 AM 680 Views
So? fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 05:00:13 AM 740 Views
Oh dear! NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 11:51:17 AM 644 Views
Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 03:04:44 PM 610 Views
Re: Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 03:11:36 PM 813 Views
This is silly guttering flame - 19/11/2009 07:29:33 PM 654 Views
There is no misrepresentation NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 07:45:18 PM 674 Views
The point I made is guttering flame - 19/11/2009 07:48:52 PM 657 Views
Are we speaking english? NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:07:45 PM 869 Views
Not really BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:19:49 PM 736 Views
Re: There is no misrepresentation BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 07:49:29 PM 788 Views
OK NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:15:08 PM 730 Views
No idea BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:17:09 PM 700 Views
OK fair enough, I do too, NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 08:31:11 PM 836 Views
Well what do you think of BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 08:56:38 PM 931 Views
And another point NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 03:05:45 PM 627 Views
For the sake of argument, though BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 03:49:23 PM 698 Views
OK fair enough NaClH2O - 19/11/2009 07:56:00 PM 682 Views
rAndy aL - 19/11/2009 12:06:02 AM 797 Views
There isn't much in this series I would call "filler" - seriously? trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 12:11:14 AM 648 Views
You're bothering to discuss a series with three books of "filler"- seriously? *NM* fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 01:34:43 AM 322 Views
Just skipped over them.....no big deal slick..... trzaska2000 - 19/11/2009 04:02:57 AM 668 Views
Yeah right... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 04:58:54 AM 630 Views
Yes, seriously rAndy aL - 20/11/2009 01:11:18 AM 728 Views
It's kind of amusing to see the prima donas bow and scrape before each other while the world ends. BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 01:37:42 PM 674 Views
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