why are you deliberately misrepresenting him in your arguments and instead hang your arguments on definitions?
Be satisfied with saying that those forsaken got timeouts from the story and often got demoted as well when they returned.
People reborn the ordinary way need 16 years to reenter the game, by which time they would become irrelevancies since this fight is going to be decided in the next few months.
When you start using words from our world for things that are just different you get contradictions. Better to coin a new term that really means what it means.
Be satisfied with saying that those forsaken got timeouts from the story and often got demoted as well when they returned.
People reborn the ordinary way need 16 years to reenter the game, by which time they would become irrelevancies since this fight is going to be decided in the next few months.
When you start using words from our world for things that are just different you get contradictions. Better to coin a new term that really means what it means.

Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts.....
17/11/2009 05:18:52 AM
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19/11/2009 12:06:02 AM
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You remember Moiraine, right? And Cadsuane? *NM*
17/11/2009 05:32:50 AM
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Cadsuane hasn't done anything and Moiraine.....you mean that person from 7 books ago?
17/11/2009 05:51:16 AM
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That's individual AS, not AS as a group. *NM*
17/11/2009 06:23:52 AM
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What use have the Andorans been then? As a nation, not individuals. *NM*
17/11/2009 06:53:35 AM
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Not much - of all plots in WOT I wish Daughter Heir had meant Heir, not Daughter of the Heir *NM*
18/11/2009 08:54:18 AM
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Short answer: nope.
17/11/2009 05:51:01 AM
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Good answer.....so why are so many stories devoted to those that are only indirectly.....
17/11/2009 05:54:10 AM
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Wonderful response, and I agree.
17/11/2009 08:18:30 PM
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rather..
18/11/2009 08:32:10 AM
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I think those critiques are overblown and not based on a fair analaysis of WoT History
18/11/2009 03:15:12 PM
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Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true.
18/11/2009 05:04:58 PM
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Re: Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true.
18/11/2009 09:16:04 PM
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Their Tower allegience was always superior to their Empire allegience but was Bonwhine
23/11/2009 02:29:57 AM
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AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims
17/11/2009 09:31:24 AM
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Re: AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims
17/11/2009 12:44:35 PM
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Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts.....
17/11/2009 02:36:33 PM
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Always help or contribute.....never do or lead.....
17/11/2009 04:23:04 PM
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if that internal silliness is not resolved the power of a united front will remain compromised. *NM*
17/11/2009 11:11:54 PM
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You could ask the exact same questions about the Ashaman, or the Aiel, or the SeaFolk, or any group
18/11/2009 11:49:25 AM
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SeaFolk yes, Aiel or Ashamen no.....stupid reply.....try again if you would like. *NM*
18/11/2009 05:56:54 PM
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Scored using your words
18/11/2009 06:33:31 PM
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Slow down Professor.....the AS have killed 1 Forsaken.....
18/11/2009 10:59:39 PM
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So who killed Lanfear? *NM*
18/11/2009 11:59:27 PM
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You mean Lanfear/Cyndane.....nobody.....
19/11/2009 12:04:10 AM
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They reduced her in power.
19/11/2009 12:39:17 AM
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Perhaps 1/32th of a point.....she's still almost as powerful as any other woman.....
19/11/2009 01:00:26 AM
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Have you read the books?
19/11/2009 01:39:37 AM
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I will type more slowly.....the AS have killed 1 and only 1 Forsaken.....
19/11/2009 04:00:59 AM
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Oh dear!
19/11/2009 11:51:17 AM
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Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death.....
19/11/2009 03:04:44 PM
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Re: Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death.....
19/11/2009 03:11:36 PM
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This is silly
19/11/2009 07:29:33 PM
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There is no misrepresentation
19/11/2009 07:45:18 PM
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Re: There is no misrepresentation
19/11/2009 07:49:29 PM
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There isn't much in this series I would call "filler" - seriously?
19/11/2009 12:11:14 AM
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You're bothering to discuss a series with three books of "filler"- seriously? *NM*
19/11/2009 01:34:43 AM
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It's kind of amusing to see the prima donas bow and scrape before each other while the world ends.
19/11/2009 01:37:42 PM
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